PLD vs BLM grief = DRG TK Tank...

[Aenarion]

Since we weren't speed running, it was rather MP wasteful to Flare at next to full Mana...

No such thing as "MP wasteful" in a proper flare rotation, unless there is only 1 enemy.

I'm not saying it was a bad AoE rotation, but it was a bad roation to use with a PLD who was not Flashing the enemies to generate aggro on all.

The BLM was stupid for continuing to use the flare rotation when it's apparently the PLD wasn't flashing, and the PLD is just plain bad for not using flash, especially once he realizes the DD were doing AOE.

[HoroBoro]

As this thread is about double flare now, my feeling is that they're going to put a CD on flare which will make all forms of double flare impossible. It's not a bug. It's how BLM mechanics work.

Good BLM have found a way to take advantage of it. When I get home in ~7 hours I will post an "exploit" when I cast >10 flares. In a row. This is what SE should really be fixing.

[Luna-Elysia]

Had same issue last night except it was the reverse. I was still the Tank in AK, marking targets in kill order while BLM switches back and forth between targets for i don't know what reason. Started trolling on me about using flash right blah blah blah, his friend in PT starts spouting how he mains PLD (Looked him up, he only had GLD/PLD to 50 aside from BLM), all this time with me just being quiet. The only response i actually give was "Really?" as they kept attacking out of order etc. till i finally stopped, sheathed my sword and didn't tank anymore.

Almost actually did the same thing this PLD did, which is AFK the rest of the fight, but then I thought they'd probably report me for doing just that so i just left the duty.

Point is, kind of sucks you'd get reported for AFK'ing because you refuse to continue with who you're paired with and forced to just leave the duty, take a 15 minute cool down wait, and have to restart all over again. While they get to just re-que for a new member and continue on griefing other players.

[Axidrain]

As this thread is about double flare now, my feeling is that they're going to put a CD on flare which will make all forms of double flare impossible. It's not a bug. It's how BLM mechanics work.

Good BLM have found a way to take advantage of it. When I get home in ~7 hours I will post an "exploit" when I cast >10 flares. In a row. This is what SE should really be fixing.

with full fire stacks on all of those flares?

[Nura]

Just to say it, Flare does more damage the more mana you got

[tymora]

Sometimes it does make sense to switch targets around. When you do flash, you gain some hate on all mobs equally. If a dps focus damage on a mob, there is a good chance they can draw hate.
It is less likely for a dps to draw hate using AOE (because the damage is spread out) than single if the tank is doing his job properly (flash/overpower).
-> However, if the tank only does single target hate gain moves, then AOE will be a bad choice.

For most practical purposes, AOE spam is still the faster way to go.

[HoroBoro]

with full fire stacks on all of those flares?

Yes full fire stacks. I'll need to go to the gym and edit the video first but aim to have it up in this thread by 5:00 AM Pacific <_<

[HoroBoro]

As promised: Mega Flare

[Eidolon]

I'm not a Black Mage, but I have to ask, Horo - none of your Flares seemed to do damage, and when your Damage was finally registered, it didn't seem to do the damage of 10+ flares. It seemed like you just had a lag spike you were spamming Flare through, but I don't think it ever actually registered the damage at all.

[Velev]

No such thing as "MP wasteful" in a proper flare rotation, unless there is only 1 enemy.



The BLM was stupid for continuing to use the flare rotation when it's apparently the PLD wasn't flashing, and the PLD is just plain bad for not using flash, especially once he realizes the DD were doing AOE.

Hey Aenarion, just a quick question for you. Did you play FFXI? and if so on what server?

It's just that your name rings a bell