Duty Finder WP Tank

[MirariMirai]

speed runs are usually completed in less than 15 or so...

maybe u could make an effort to learn how to speed run in case u meet more of such tanks? instead of whining here? the saying goes "if u can't win them... join them..."

[Malendroit]

speed runs are usually completed in less than 15 or so...

maybe u could make an effort to learn how to speed run in case u meet more of such tanks? instead of whining here?

Is this time too slow for DF created parties?

Good work on ignoring a completely valid question...

To answer your question, 30-35 minutes is completely fine in DF and not at all unexpected.

As an experienced WHM, I go into every DF expecting a 25ish minute speed-like run. I'd rather join up in a PUG on my server and do a 15ish minute speed-run.

Speed runs are designed for everyone being properly geared and having the proper party setup as well. +1 relic/Full DL is generally the minimum people want. Duty Finding this and expecting everyone to have this is absurd.
They should be adjusting to the groups abilities, NOT having the group adjust to their abilities.

I wish you luck, Aegys!

[Pesmergia]

Good work on ignoring a completely valid question...

To answer your question, 30-35 minutes is completely fine in DF and not at all unexpected.

As an experienced WHM, I go into every DF expecting a 25ish minute speed-like run. I'd rather join up in a PUG on my server and do a 15ish minute speed-run.

Speed runs are designed for everyone being properly geared and having the proper party setup as well. +1 relic/Full DL is generally the minimum people want. Duty Finding this and expecting everyone to have this is absurd.
They should be adjusting to the groups abilities, NOT having the group adjust to their abilities.

I wish you luck, Aegys!

He didn't ignore a valid question, he gave a valid answer.

[Babylyn90]

speed runs are usually completed in less than 15 or so...

maybe u could make an effort to learn how to speed run in case u meet more of such tanks? instead of whining here? the saying goes "if u can't win them... join them..."

Maybe speed runners could get off the DF and meet up with those who are shouting for them in Mhor Dhona? Maybe they could make an effort to suck it up and just finish the run at the cost of 10 more min (vs. taking the 15min hit or having to restart)?

That saying could be applied to speed runners just as well, pointless.

[Aegys]

maybe u could make an effort to learn how to speed run in case u meet more of such tanks? instead of whining here? the saying goes "if u can't win them... join them..."

Maybe you can make an effort to teach? Instead of whining here about people not making an effort to learn. Why else would I make a thread asking if my normal completion time is consistent with what the community demands?

[Hechicera]

Maybe you can make an effort to teach? Instead of whining here about people not making an effort to learn. Why else would I make a thread asking if my normal completion time is consistent with what the community demands?

If it is community expectation, out of a duty finder group, then the game is dead. New, ungeared people will hit this and quit, population drops, game over. Duty finder is expected to be the lowest common denominator. If you notice people are more geared than expected and use that (yep amazing tool chat!) to ask if the DF group wants to speed run, fine. Anyone expecting though without checking gear and asking from a DF group is rock dumb. A lot of times I'm running WP in crafted militia gear (sufficient for a non-speed run) in order to bond it to get materia. There are many reasons to grind, and not all are tomes. I'd wear something else for a speed run.

Speed runs are fine, and I totally understand why people do them, but your question was community expectations of a Duty Finder made group.

[ZodiacSoldier]

speed runs are usually completed in less than 15 or so...

maybe u could make an effort to learn how to speed run in case u meet more of such tanks? instead of whining here? the saying goes "if u can't win them... join them..."

Do you not see that his main is DRG? Assuming, that he was on his DRG, most people won't take DRGs for WP speed runs.
And remember, this is a DF party, not a premade party, you have to let the other people know that you are going to speed run. And honestly the tank should have looked at his party setup before he even attempted this.

WP Speed Run Information for the OP
Most speed run, groups consists of PLD, BLM, BRD and WHM.

WAR can replace PLD if they are geared enough but most people still prefer PLD for the mitigation and better hate management (flash spam is better cause overpower wake sleeping mobs).
Most party want BLM for their Flares and AOE sleep, a skilled SMN may be able to use Tri-disaster + Shadow Flare for slow, but there aren't many people that can do that.
They want BRD for the Rain of Death, MP Songs and Foe Requiem, DRG and MNK just dont provide as much utility or AOE as BRD do.
WHM because Holy Spam is amazing with the stuns, they can pretty much 1 or 2 shots the adds for the 2nd and 3rd boss.
A skilled and geared group can normally get it done around 12 to 13 min, world record I believe is around 8min

[pickard]

speed runs are usually completed in less than 15 or so...

maybe u could make an effort to learn how to speed run in case u meet more of such tanks? instead of whining here? the saying goes "if u can't win them... join them..."

loser. really. df is not for speed runs.

[flamds1]

speed runs are usually completed in less than 15 or so...

maybe u could make an effort to learn how to speed run in case u meet more of such tanks? instead of whining here? the saying goes "if u can't win them... join them..."

Or the tank could actually look at people's gear and think about if they'll actually be able to pull of a speed run. Let me guess you were one of the tanks?