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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwerpunkt View Post
    The same people who wouldn't want their level, which they spent time grinding for, to be synced down to 20 or 30 or whatever.

    If level is already being synced, why not ilvl as well? It makes little sense for such a feature to only be applied to early- to mid-game content and not end-game content as well.
    So you say, if you enter a level50 instance, and your gear is over ilevel55, it should be synched to ilevel55?
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-24-2013 at 06:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    What's the point in synch the equip even in lvl 50 istances ? What's the point to farm for my full allagan gear and weapon if i can use it to full only inside coil ? Is that supposed to be a joke ?
    To be fair, this is a lack of content issue. HM dungeons, CT, and EM Primals is where you should be able to use that gear outside of coil.
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    Link to my topic

    The truth is that no matter how much ilvl sync is hated, it is the only way to solve some issues. The purpose of getting better gear should be:
    1. Helping to tacke more demanding encounters.
    2. Getting better score on "infinite content" which purpose is "world's best", not "world's first".
    3. Maybe some open world content, but rewards have to be contributon-based, not claim-based.

    NOT farming things faster. Facerolling instance dropping ilvl 55-60 gear with ilvl 70-90 gear to get ilvl 90 items is bad by design.
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    Last edited by IzumiRaito; 11-24-2013 at 07:27 AM.

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    ilevel sync would also help stifle this attitude of "raiders get gear and I want it too!".

    If someone doesn't plan on participating in content that requires high level gear, ilevel sync will ensure that they don't want, need, or feel entitled to have it.

    ilevel sync is one of things we need but we don't want. It would help the overall health of the game and the player base, as well as allow more meaningful rewards to all new dungeons in the future as well.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by zdub303 View Post
    To be fair, this is a lack of content issue. HM dungeons, CT, and EM Primals is where you should be able to use that gear outside of coil.
    no, you got my reply wrong. My reply is aimed to the idea to synch gear in inferior dungeons 50. Why i should work my ass to get an allagan weapon if i can use it full fully only in coil and then synch it in WP at the level of a ilvl 55 weapon ? For the same reasons, when they'll release superior weapons, they'll get synched outside content aimed for that ilvl. It completely destroy the idea at the base to obtain loot: becoming stronger just to find yourself weak as before.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    no, you got my reply wrong.
    No I got it, my point was, you shouldn't still want to do WP if you have an Allagan weapon, you're past that point in the gear progression. Its just that there isn't that much after WP, and because we're 35 ilevels higher than the content we can run all run it in 15m or less making it more efficient than.. well.. AK, which is the only other dungeon at the moment.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by zdub303 View Post
    No I got it, my point was, you shouldn't still want to do WP if you have an Allagan weapon, you're past that point in the gear progression. Its just that there isn't that much after WP, and because we're 35 ilevels higher than the content we can run all run it in 15m or less making it more efficient than.. well.. AK, which is the only other dungeon at the moment.
    Even if i had an allagan weapon and i am after that part of progression,doesn't mean i don't want do it ever again. I could do it to equip a second class with that gear or with myth, for relic, for money, because i want...hell, i plan to do dzemael for coliseum gear which i am after since 1.23.
    Just because i passed over the progression, don't mean i should forgot of them. I'm totally ok with level synching in lower dungeons, i don't feel the need to synch my gear in content 50, nor i think it would help something. This is just another attempt to kill speedruns (which i hate, but i don't try to stop people doing them. I just queue in df)
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    Last edited by yukikaze_yanagi; 11-24-2013 at 07:47 AM.

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    Even if i had an allagan weapon and i am after that part of progression,doesn't mean i don't want do it ever again. I could do it to equip a second class with that gear or with myth, for relic for money, because i want...hell, i plan to do dzemael for coliseum gear which i am after since 1.23.
    Just because i passed over the progression, don't mean i should forgot of them. I'm totally ok with level synching in lower dungeons, i don't feel the need to synch my gear in content 50, nor i think it would help something. This is just another attempt to kill speedruns (which i hate, but i don't try to stop people doing them. I just queue in df)
    When you really think about it, there is very little difference between syncing for WP and syncing for DD. The biggest problem, and why they can't/won't implement ilevel sync right now is because there are no other dungeons. If there were multiple i55, i60, i70, and i80 dungeons. You wouldn't care so much about ilvl sync, it would essentially be the same as level syncing for leveling dungeons. The problem is, they haven't released these dungeons yet and that's why having that Allagan weapon would be meaningless outside of coil, as there is no 2.0 content outside of coil that an Allagan weapon would not sync down to.
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  9. #39
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    so crystal tower should be syncs to i55, when it drops i80 gears?

    casual logic.
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    Why not make it optional? When you enter it gives an option. Those who want to do it can choose to sync.
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