I'm sad to see this game going the same route as SWTOR.

[Mistoltin]

Completely agreed.
Was talking to a friend in game and was saying that this game was potentially heading down the same path.
The only saving grace is that FFXIV will never see the day of F2P, though, to be honest, it's not exactly feeling completely worth the subscription fee either.

[Starlord]

Actually...
http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/11/...g-subscribers/

Every MMO has an initial nose dive ( which has settled at 600k 3 months into the game) . Which will probably drop to about 500k and and keep that pace ( and possible grow over time as patch make the game bigger).

[Reslin]

I did not realize this. This is good news.

I never said there was a lack of options. Reread the post; it's a new game, it's OK to have limited content. I'm sad with the direction the devs are taking it, as it's poor choice. That still leaves the devs' ignorance of the netcode issue - or rather their lack of visually acknowledging it.

I apologize for my harsh tone when saying "You do realize." some people disregard things like that. I also see that you're willing to actually debate than state opinions as facts which is why I'm apologizing for how my first post to you was worded. Sorry about the assumption. CT not being efficient? It really depends on how much myth tomes it requires. It may give an obscene number given the scale of the content; it may not. I can't say one way or another but I will say this.. the netcode issue did get addressed. They stated that it can't be fixed entirely but they're going to make it less problematic in end game dungeons and content. They can't do it for the whole game but they can do it in specific instances so there will be an upgrade to it. Better than nothing I suppose. Honestly, the .3 second delay is my biggest gripe with the game even if I can work around it. There's still the fact that there's going to be 5 "End game dungeons" aside from crystal tower. So there might be something aside from running just WP/AK there's also a possibility one of these areas will be even more efficient but.. that's also just speculation.

Actually... Game sold 1mil+ but only managed to retain 600k or so, expect that number to decline bruv.
http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/11/...g-subscribers/

No. That's completely normal and isn't a decline. Those were never people that subscribed (paid a monthly fee.) SWTOR lost 500,000 subscribers by the end of their second month. 500,000 people who already paid their 15 dollars. WoW sold well over 60,000,000 copies. Most people that buy an mmo don't subscribe. Many people buy it just to try it out and don't play longer than their 30 days. Most mmo's drop to abysmally low numbers by the third month. Also note this 500,000 of those players joined in october. By that update they haven't yet put in any payment. Their initial 30 days aren't up. How many of them subscribed? How many of them didn't? We don't currently have access to those numbers.

[SynMaris]

Snip.

SWTOR's initial dip was the typical one too, but eventually the games lack of content is what did it in, which is what is going to happen here if they don't get their shit together.

[Incredible]

I've started coil, got to turn 4 and obtained one piece of Allagan gear now out of my current two runs.

You should be ecstatic you got a piece in 2 runs. 7 weeks in a row now and not a single healer drop for me or the other guy.... Don't worry my level 7 lancer has couple level 90 dragoon gear waiting. lawl. Sub runs out in a week, I'll check back occasionally to see if they add more, but doubt much will come of it. Severely disappointed as I love FF games.

[Reslin]

SWTOR's initial dip was the typical one too, but eventually the games lack of content is what did it in, which is what is going to happen here if they don't get their shit together.

No it wasn't the typical one. They lost 500,000 subs. We didn't.

[SynMaris]

No it wasn't the typical one. They lost 500,000 subs. We didn't.

1.4 MIL to 600K, you're right, you didn't lose 500k, you lost more.

BTW sources for your claims please, you always make that claim but never source it.

[Incredible]

No it wasn't the typical one. They lost 500,000 subs. We didn't.

Didn't they also have something like 1.5mil subs to FF14's 600k?

[peaches]

You should be ecstatic you got a piece in 2 runs. 7 weeks in a row now and not a single healer drop for me or the other guy.... Don't worry my level 7 lancer has couple level 90 dragoon gear waiting. lawl. Sub runs out in a week, I'll check back occasionally to see if they add more, but doubt much will come of it. Severely disappointed as I love FF games.

Oh I'm definitely happy I got a piece, but I was actually trying to avoid coil until CT comes out, haha. I like proper progression in a game, so I wanted to get CT gear then work my way to Coils gear so to not make CT gear obsolete for me main class that I love playing. Chances are I'd still get the gear anyways for vanity, but I really want it to have an actual use.

The only reason I did those two coil runs is because my FCs other Scholar couldn't be on for those two runs and I was filling in for them. The first run I believe the healing boots dropped and our WHM got them, so I was told the next piece of gear was mine, and luckily enough another piece dropped!

[Borfin]

the netcode issue did get addressed. They stated that it can't be fixed entirely but they're going to make it less problematic in end game dungeons and content

Can you link this? This would be a gamebreaker in whether or not I actually resubscribe.

Was it actually in Yoshi-P's letter and I missed it?