Please don't remove Invigorate from BRD ><

[Verius_Nox]

Monk buuuuuuffffff mmmmm yeeeesss lemme task your birds tears

Monks were already good lol. A geared monk parsed higher than any other geared DPS.

[whoopeeragon]

Whoosh

Whoosh

You're referring to Archer. Not Bard. Much like Scholar is a healer, but branched off a DPS role. Any class can equip any of the cross-class abilites you mentioned. I did say more support role than other DPS. Not that it is pure support.

Might as well say "Why can't my WHM DPS, it obviously has 5 DPS moves with game's most potent AoE!" because of that.

[dascorp]

this game is becoming more and more retarded.... in 1.0 you could equip any cross class abilities.... but you had to unlock some of them first by doing quests... and 2.0 limited on what abilities you can equip on jobs.... which made everybody pretty much equip the same abilities... which doesnt make any sense... with the game-breaking armory system.... maybe subjobs should come back? or right.... this isnt ffxi

brd could cure... aoe stoneskin... and i had that ability that expanded the range of songs... i would use that song... to make sure people got my songs... even if they were far away.... and yes it did work...

[Elazu]

wat.

Nope. I was specifically refering to Bards.

BLMs, WHMs, SCHs, SMNs, PLDs can not equip the cross-class abilities I mentioned. WARs can equip one of them. And WHMs can DPS...in WP speedruns.

[ThanMazus]

Monk buuuuuuffffff mmmmm yeeeesss lemme task your brds tears

Edit : yea I'm maining a monk and know we DPS well but am for the buff cause brd as it stands alienates most other DPS for certain runs.

I hope you remember this post should the nerf bat ever come for your class.

[OPneedNerfs]

Funny how all the people gloating about this change don't realize there'll simply be more competition for your classes cause there's the armory system.

This also means Bards who do continue playing will be highly sought after since there will be alot less players willing to play em.

In short, end of the day, if you want to do any endgame content, you'd either need to:
a) be really good at your class, top tier so that you will be picked out of all the other people who decided to re-roll from bards.
b) have a group of friends who enjoy playing classes that you don't
c) become a bard yourself because you don't qualify for either of the above.

Remember people, bards will still be sought after for their utility. Nothing will change. Even if bards did 100 less dps than the other DPS classes now, they'd still be brought to end game content simply due to the current end game content's mechanics.

This change only hurts the process of people even wanting to start playing a bard. Imagine going through a 4 man instance with a gimped DPS with a group of sub-par geared people. It's not going to make things easier for anyone. Heck, if anything, it's gonna make things harder for everyone else BUT the bard player.

[MartaDemireux]

If they drop our DPS via cross class abilities they should at least allow our elemental attacks to work with Foe Requiem as compensation.

I personally see them removing LNC from our cross class abilities altogether and replacing it with ACN. Invigorate sustains our AoE damage which they might think is OP. Blood for Blood is VERY powerful which they might think is OP.

The reason I think ACN is because Eye for an Eye, Virus, Physick and Resurrection are all very support-oriented abilities and they want BRD to be more support focused than DPS. They did already give BRD a healer limit break afterall. That said, they should really add in a "support" role to go along with DPS/Tank/Heal ones.

[knite23]

If I am not wrong there are traits for those abilities and the traits are not shared between classes right?
Yes. I am not wrong

and sch does not have those traits which is not a class correction its a job since u want to be technical so yes your wrong whm/sch are jobs not classes and no traits arnt shared between these to jobs which bot are healers which means only whm can cast better buffs i made my point very clear and every party you will be in will not always have a whm but since u replied and failed to read let me repost this and off the record u only have 2 50s archer and acn u dont havent even unlocked all the cross class abilities on bard seeing your drg is 22............... but yet your in here explaing brd but you barely even played the class is obviously your new to the job and game

For the record, a pugilist's stoneskin (10% of target's hp) and protect (Only physical defense) is as strong as an SCH or PLD's, because only whm gets traits to enhance them (18% of target's hp, and protect gets magic defense).

So take some of your own advice.

your rite sir only whm.... it clearly says whm/sch and the point hes tying to make is because brds buffs arnt as strong as whm buffs which i repeat clearly says whm/sch they would never be a reason to use them which is clearly false and understood by anyone who played brd in 1.0 and even now ive been in plenty of parties without any whm the point is supporting is supporting its not about who cast the better buff its about making sure the buffs are up and the healers arnt wasting there mana or time to cast the buff thus the TERM support not only that our support job was to raise anyone who was dead buff them and heal if a healer went down so yes i took the advice and read it but my point is very clear thanks and this is wat i was editing my post with along with that whm are the only ones who can to a better protect and ss but since u had to jump to correct me before i could finish editing it u get my full response lol thanks for the correction though

and this guy doesnt even have archer to 50 where do we keep getting these ppl from

[knite23]

to many ppl in here trying to be mr right and make points and only have 1 job leveled or dont even play brd and never even played 1.0 so u dont even know what supporting is on bard once u guys played every job and u see how bards support and how valuable supporting is u will understand but until then its beating a dead horse bards need to be more supporty we have our damage mitigation, we have our mp management, we have our increase healing aoe buff, we have our tp management, and we can increase element damage and we also have A HEAL/RAISE LB...... we need to be able to raise in battle again we need our sucky as heal again we need to be able to buff the party again and most of all we need harder battles so bard supporting role can truely be noticed and shine

[LemmingKingXXX]

So I've read the thread but I still haven't figured out the answer to this question. What exactly are they changing about BRD?