Why should I renew my subscription?

[Leandras]

Well put...that just proved what we've been arguing about. Saying that this patch that we've been waiting half a year for is benefiting only casuals. So what your saying is that SE is making stuff to benefit casuals after working on it for months.

Yes, and the following patch will only benifit hardcore. But ofcourse then it's all perfectly damn fine as long as you get something out of the deal, isn't it? This whole arguement isn't about the concerns for the games development direction, but rather a bunch of players screaming at eachother over who is more entitled for new content.

Let me explain the current development model again as most people can't understand sarcasm and skip it.
2.0, 2.2, 2.4 - Hardcore Coil Content (You guys are a part of this community and you really deserve this)
2.1, 2.3, 2.5 - Casual Content (We will have our own thing to do and try to stay out of your way, we ask that the hardcore community respect those wishes aswell)

All and all it's the most efficient way to ensure that everyone gets a slice of the pie.

[Leon_Stormrage]

Well put...that just proved what we've been arguing about. Saying that this patch that we've been waiting half a year for is benefiting only casuals. So what your saying is that SE is making stuff to benefit casuals after working on it for months.

Also, the OP is asking for PROGRESSIVE raiding progress. How does leveling your chocobo or gathering count as a progressive raid!?

6month? Your maths are so wrong

[Roris]

This is what happens when you advertise a major feature for over a year then don't complete it on time so you rush the rest of the game and take out the incomplete part, then months later add it back in the place it was supposed to go in regards to content well after a lot of people already cleared the higher content.

[Warthain]

Eh, you don't have to.

As it stands I wouldn't recommend this game to anyone until 2.2 hits.

i did just that, friends asked me what i was playing i said ffXIV, they asked me if it was cool, i send them to play rift... i dont recommend this game until i see its worth my friends time has they arent FF fans, first i need to see if pvp is balanced and if there really is any endgame content worth clearing, since binding coild all turns are utter and complete trash from my personnal experience in there.. its a bad dungeon filled with uninspired content, no real mechanics in fights except dodge this, heal next dmg spike ...

pve is to easy atm, and pvp not hoping much from it at least from what ive seen on youtube, this game cant be kept alive by making it look like sims, for one i wish housing came much later on, and instead we had decent and well polished pve and pvp content.

[Babydoll]

Did I say it did?

We are getting more raids. Coil will be expanded and there will be new stuff later on just as any other MMO. Don't act like just because this patch doesn't strongly cater to your will that no future patch ever will.

After months of waiting for anything to at least enhance this game, which essentially (upon release) extended into phases of unofficial beta tests (due to all the fixes and crap we had to deal with for months), i have a right to act as though nothing will be coming in the future. What the hell came out of 2.0's release from when it was considered "future" remake of what was 3 years ago, waiting for 1.0 to be remade into some insane expanse of content and amazement.

I'm not to judge simply because I have strong feelings towards a game I've been supporting for years

If you want to whiteknight, that's fine. I want what I've been promised (years ago) and payed for (for years)

gg

Yes, and the following patch will only benifit hardcore. But ofcourse then it's all perfectly damn fine as long as you get something out of the deal, isn't it? This whole arguement isn't about the concerns for the games development direction, but rather a bunch of players screaming at eachother over who is more entitled for new content.

Let me explain the current development model again as most people can't understand sarcasm and skip it.
2.0, 2.2, 2.4 - Hardcore Coil Content (You guys are a part of this community and you really deserve this)
2.1, 2.3, 2.5 - Casual Content (We will have our own thing to do and try to stay out of your way, we ask that the hardcore community respect those wishes aswell)

All and all it's the most efficient way to ensure that everyone gets a slice of the pie.

Doing a raid that you can only do once a week is not hardcore. People are doing T1-5 in a NIGHT..in an couple hours or less. Hardcore means your playing everyday...doing raids EVERYDAY. Not progressing...progressing is progressing. My BF plays "casual" hours...he plays 2 hours a night IF THAT...sometimes not at all. We have done T1-5 and he has the best gear he can have. How is a non "hardcore" player doing all of this if the content is so hardcore?

[silentwindfr]

nothing come... well 4 fight in extrem mode that look really really painfull, a whole new raid for 24 player, 3 new dungeon at 4, pvp, housing, treasure hunting, a lot of improvement for quality of life (like the fact that dungeon will become the best option for level up or the duty finder roulette), king mog and whatever they haven't show us already...

Content is not only high end game raid... if you look for a game that only care for the hardcore game i will simply say this: good luck to find one... Hard core gamer are a small portion of the player base...and even if they try to satisfy them (extrem mode) they are never happy.

[TrystWildkey]

You know what, that's it, I've had enough.

If.
You.
Don't.
Like.
The.
Game.

Stop.
Playing.

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[AunaYuuki]

OMERGHHHH first update and we don't get everything our little hearts desire. Boo-who. Let's cry and threaten to unsubscribe every time something doesn't go our way. If you don't like it then leave until more content becomes available. It is a brand new game still and still in the working phases.

[Leandras]

After months of waiting for anything to at least enhance this game, which essentially (upon release) extended into phases of unofficial beta tests (due to all the fixes and crap we had to deal with for months), i have a right to act as though nothing will be coming in the future. What the hell came out of 2.0's release from when it was considered "future" remake of what was 3 years ago, waiting for 1.0 to be remade into some insane expanse of content and amazement.

I'm not to judge simply because I have strong feelings towards a game I've been supporting for years

If you want to whiteknight, that's fine. I want what I've been promised (years ago) and payed for (for years)

gg



Doing a raid that you can only do once a week is not hardcore. People are doing T1-5 in a NIGHT..in an couple hours or less. Hardcore means your playing everyday...doing raids EVERYDAY. Not progressing...progressing is progressing. My BF plays "casual" hours...he plays 2 hours a night IF THAT...sometimes not at all. We have done T1-5 and he has the best gear he can have. How is a non "hardcore" player doing all of this if the content is so hardcore?

So you're asking for content to remain a challenge no matter how many times you've done it? Sadly this doesn't exist at this time (would be cool if it did). I understand that at this point you feel you're over the content, but I ask that you realize that this is a MMO and over the last couple of years the development model to a MMO has changed. I agree it's bad that endgame exists out of only 4 fights and I can see the exact same happening in CT. This is something that we, the community, must bring to light and ask for it to be addressed. But once again just because you are able to farm Coil doesn't mean you're more entitled than others in this game. Congrats on clearing your runs so fast without even trying and I hope they release more content per patch soon.

[Babydoll]

So you're asking for content to remain a challenge no matter how many times you've done it? Sadly this doesn't exist at this time (would be cool if it did). I understand that at this point you feel you're over the content, but I ask that you realize that this is a MMO and over the last couple of years the development model to a MMO has changed. I agree it's bad that endgame exists out of only 4 fights and I can see the exact same happening in CT. This is something that we, the community, must bring to light and ask for it to be addressed. But once again just because you are able to farm Coil doesn't mean you're more entitled than others in this game. Congrats on clearing your runs so fast without even trying and I hope they release more content per patch soon.

Yeah it just doesn't feel like hardcore content. I mean...I just see it as very little end game content atm. But yeah I think we are on the same page...all I am hoping for is they release enough content so that people stick around and the game becomes fun for everyone. I am hoping by the first expansion...and I do plan to stick around until then!