LOL@ Yoshi P's response to why Coil raiders should do Crystal Tower

[KenzieLynch]

You could always do CT for...you know...the enjoyment of doing it.

[Freakiie]

Wow, I must have imagined all those posts complaining about having to do AK over and over.

If the new dungeons are as bland and straightforward as WP/AK nothing will change. Considering how a lot of people already outgear them (Yes unlike popular believe there are plenty of people that at least got largely DL) a lot of the mechanics probably can already be skipped so in the end it's just going to be the same "So, what's fastest?" story. Blame SE for making their endgame dungeons horribly bland from what we've seen so far.

You could always do CT for...you know...the enjoyment of doing it.

Except that you either have to queue up over and over to try and get 3 FC/LS/Friend parties in there or have to wait for 2 random parties which may or may not always be equally enjoyable. Especially when it involves waiting around for ages because your organised party can clear the "solo" part of CT way faster than the other parties. Also, same story as the other instances, designed for i55-60ish gear. It's just going to be more roflstomping.

[Giantbane]

Except that you either have to queue up over and over to try and get 3 FC/LS/Friend parties in there or have to wait for 2 random parties which may or may not always be equally enjoyable. Especially when it involves waiting around for ages because your organised party can clear the "solo" part of CT way faster than the other parties. Also, same story as the other instances, designed for i55-60ish gear. It's just going to be more roflstomping.

I don't know if it's "designed" for ilvl 55-60 gear. That's just going to be the minimum requirement. So at bare minimum you don't get fresh 50s with AF and white jewelry in the run. You ever run a new computer game on a system that just barely meets minimum specs? It's not pretty. I'd imagine if you get extraordinarily unlucky and get grouped into a DF run completely full of members that barely clear the ilvl 55 prereq, it will probably be just as rough.

[Freakiie]

I don't know if it's "designed" for ilvl 55-60 gear. That's just going to be the minimum requirement. So at bare minimum you don't get fresh 50s with AF and white jewelry in the run. You ever run a new computer game on a system that just barely meets minimum specs? It's not pretty. I'd imagine if you get extraordinarily unlucky and get grouped into a DF run completely full of members that barely clear the ilvl 55 prereq, it will probably be just as rough.

Taking this from the screencap thread, which is a recap off the live letter.

The new Pharos Sirius dungeon is the big tower near the Aleport with a large crystal stuck inside it. It’s a 4-men dungeon. That’s the plan to all dungeons that will be added outside of the endgame, to allow casual players to do them easily. It’ll drop level 60 gear and you should be able to do it with artifact armor. It will also include a classic Final Fantasy boss, that won’t be revealed today.

Haukke Manor and Copperbell Mines are going to get hard modes. Some routes will be different, and the bosses and their mechanics will also be completely changed for the hard mode. Clearing normal mode will be necessary to access them. They’ll feature a story where something happened in the dungeons and the player will be requested to go back and address the problem. They will drop level 60 items.

At this stage, Crystal Tower was showcased with a live demo. Item level necessary for the Crystal Tower should be pretty much the same as Amdapoor Keep. Chests will be separate for each party so every party will get its own. They will contain level 80 items. The Binding Coil of Bahamut has stronger items, but items dropped from the Crystal Tower will be usable with the vanity slot coming in 2.2.

Good King Moggle Mog XII that will be implemented in 2.1 is similar in difficulty to Garuda Hard Mode, but a little harder. There will be eight moogles to fight and each one will have his own job. The fight will have both a easy and a hard mode.

Doesn't sound like anything in there will be harder than AK. Sure people that don't know how to play can mess it up, but that hardly makes for an argument imo (aside from CT since you can only DF that).

[Giantbane]

Doesn't sound like anything in there will be harder than AK. Sure people that don't know how to play can mess it up, but that hardly makes for an argument imo (aside from CT since you can only DF that).

Perhaps, but considering it's dropping ilvl 80 gear I'm sort of expecting it to be harder than AK. Considering it's also supposed to be the progression step between DL and coil I would be surprised if it isn't.

I guess we'll see. However it will probably be easier than coil, so if you've got that on farm I guess it will probably seem relatively easy to you anyway.

And I really have a hard time understanding the rage that some people exhibit when it comes to not having a vanity system yet. That isn't even on my radar as something I care that much about.

I think it depends on your class most likely. On my alt drg job I would rather have the AF armor visible over the look of DL armor and especially the ugly as sin AK set that I first used when I got it to 50.

[Mitternacht]

Doesn't sound like anything in there will be harder than AK. Sure people that don't know how to play can mess it up, but that hardly makes for an argument imo (aside from CT since you can only DF that).

Inferring that CT will be about the same as AK because it has an item level 55 requirement is fairly erroneous given that it would take a mix of WP/AK/DL or crafted gear to hit that average. They make no statement of an item level minimum for AK, Pharos, HM Copperbell, or HM Manor - but since Pharos is tuned for people in AF then it's probably an expected average item level of 46-49 for all of those instances.