LOL@ Yoshi P's response to why Coil raiders should do Crystal Tower

[omniwaink]

"You’ll be able to obtain equipment that can then be used with the “vanity” (name TBD) system that we will be implementing later, and you can also obtain equipment for your alternate classes and jobs."

So we should do it for a feature that isn't even implemented yet. And for jobs we aren't playing.

Yay!!!!!

Let's see what else...Extreme Primals that drop ilvl 90 weapons which we already have. Or hard-mode dungeons that give the same ilvl gear and tokens as a faster/easier Wanderer's Palace run.

Is there any point to do any of the content in 2.1, other than for a vanity system that won't be implemented until the next patch? Wtf are we even supposed to do after we transmog our characters?

[Babydoll]

Yeah when I read that I face palmed. They're goin backwards lol.

[Starlord]

Gear gear gear! That's all everyone thinks about! Not about the Actual content!

[Arriverderci]

Oh well.
They made coil the end all be all of gear.
But...we already knew CT for instance, was going to go backwards to begin with since it was suppose to be played before Coil.

I'm doing CT for fun...like others should be doing but I guess people don't care about that nowadays.
Just being the most bestest geared up person in all the lands. I'm glad I'm not like that lol.

[synaesthetic]

Gear gear gear! That's all everyone thinks about! Not about the Actual content!

Of course I'm thinking about the content. The gear is relevant to that--because if the new dungeons have a recommended gearing level of AF and the Crystal Tower has a recommended gear level of 55... these dungeons cannot possibly be difficult and anyone who is wearing Relic+1/AF2/Allagan or even Primal+Darklight is going to blast through them without a shred of a challenge.

The content is completely, totally, absolutely wholly irrelevant if it's not challenging.

[Tupsi]

Gear gear gear! That's all everyone thinks about! Not about the Actual content!

Starlord - CT and the new dungeon is a backpeddle from current content. Yes, it's new content and something to grind for people who don't do end-game currently, but if you've set foot and cleared at least to tier 4 Coil, you already outpaced the "new" content. Read the Q&A, people focus on the actual content, which comes with rewards.

Rewards that, again, unless you never did end-game currently, you already outpaced and even Yoshi stated it'd be more for the vanity system..are you really fighting against the guy who made this..? lol

[Hyrist]

Wait, what?

Sorry but the tone of the community does not fit with the complaints you are making.

There have been numerous, nauseating amounts even, of threads complaining about there not being enough to do at endgame.

And just because the new content is not at the absolute apex of endgame it's suddenly irrelevant?

Ok, let's conveniently forget for a moment that we were told, since the beginning, that Crystal Tower came BEFORE Coil of Bahamut in terms of progression. And that the reason why it was pulled from the beginning was a major difficulty overhaul because it wasn't supposed to be on par with Coil - which is a manual raid content, where CT was supposed to still be Duty Finder content.

Let's also forget that the vast majority of the populace is not, in fact, super-hardcore and have reach Coil, or even if they have completed the game are in a gear position to coil.

Not to mention the numerous complaints about Mythology caps and the inability to gear other classes progressively...

I'm still left with the glaring question of why any battle content released after launch must absolutely be directed solely at the highest echelon of endgame content is suddenly obsolete and not worth creating or visiting.

Progression-obsession, really is a thing these days... and it's kinda disturbing.

[BalthierLove]

*Facepalm* Alright that is enough of the forums today, all the QQ'ing is giving me a tumor.

Wait, what?

Sorry but the tone of the community does not fit with the complaints you are making.

There have been numerous, nauseating amounts even, of threads complaining about there not being enough to do at endgame.

And just because the new content is not at the absolute apex of endgame it's suddenly irrelevant?

Exactly this, and like I have mentioned before: You cannot please everyone.

[Mitternacht]

It's almost as if... the content wasn't designed for people who clear Coil. That can't be, after all we know that it makes the most sense to only make content that revolves around the smallest possible subsection of your subscription-base.

[Tupsi]

Wait, what?

Sorry but the tone of the community does not fit with the complaints you are making.

There have been numerous, nauseating amounts even, of threads complaining about there not being enough to do at endgame.

As I said before, people will gobble up whatever SE tosses at them, which is fine - But if this was any other MMO, you know full well people wouldn't accept the company going backwards.

We knew CT and whatnot was delayed, but because it was delayed they could have actually repurposed it like they did Cutter's Cry, Darkhold and Aurum.

It's almost as if... the content wasn't designed for people who clear Coil. That can't be, after all we know that it makes the most sense to only make content that revolves around the smallest possible subsection of your subscription-base.

It was designed to be done before coil, thus delaying it and releasing it as new content is why not everyone is eating it up.