Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[Robinthehood]

Um....people have a right to be angry about this since its a complete and utter idiotic decision to force people to use the duty finder instead of letting them form their own 24 man group of either fc members, linkshell members, or friends like it is in every other similar mmo in existance.

Stop mindlessly defending a company when they make a stupid mistake or decision cause it doesn't help the game...it only hurts it.

[Invz]

Why don't you give an example of 'griefing' that would occur in the Tower?

The same type of stuff that happens currently in the duty finder. People AFK, people lose fights on purpose, people expect to be carried, people use abusive language towards other players because there are no repercussions for it. These are the reasons why I wont use the duty finder now. I have no problem with the dungeon being available on the duty finder, but if I am forced to party with randoms instead of creating premades then I wont do the content.

[Ryios]

Attitudes of not wanting to play with people outside your fc....

If I want to play a certain way that's my business, not someone elses. I've played MMO's for a decade with no duty finder with a traditional guild. I've established a bond with my guild members and I look forward to playing with them more than anything else about the game. We spent time working together building up a strategy for CT when it comes out and now.... We can't que up with 24....

If there isn't something in CT I need, gear wise, I'll just boycott it till they fix this, one less tank in the que.

[Eekiki]

Um....people have a right to be angry about this since its a complete and utter idiotic decision to force people to use the duty finder instead of letting them form their own 24 man group of either fc members, linkshell members, or friends like it is in every other similar mmo in existance.

But that isn't what people are saying. The people who you say are "defending" it are for the most part saying that this isn't their "decision". This is just how it's gonna be at first, because it will take some major reprogramming of the duty finder and party system to make it possible. Don't forget that Crystal Tower was supposed to be in the game at release. If they delay it anymore they might as well not even bother releasing it.

We spent time working together building up a strategy for CT when it comes out

I call BS. How could you "build up a strategy" for CT? You have no idea what the mechanics of the place are at all.

[Tahldon]

I'm really not one to complain, but... If I can avoid it... I try not to use Duty Finder at all.

I'm just not a fan of how silly people act in it.

[Sylve]

The same type of stuff that happens currently in the duty finder. People AFK, people lose fights on purpose, people expect to be carried, people use abusive language towards other players because there are no repercussions for it. These are the reasons why I wont use the duty finder now. I have no problem with the dungeon being available on the duty finder, but if I am forced to party with randoms instead of creating premades then I wont do the content.

Heh.
AFK= Vote kick (Confirmed in letter coming in 2.1)
Trolling/Griefing/Douchebag = Welp, that guy is on the same server as 7 other people in his group. Guess who just got blacklisted by potentially 7 different FCs if the Premade containing such a stupid player was a shoutcraft group.
The option to report those players exists, as they're on your own server.

Try again?

[Robinthehood]

Each 8 player group has its own personal loot ...

So you don't like playing with people outside your little circle? Cool. Thats your choice. Theres people who like playing with random people. I'm one of them, and im sure im not alone.

So far, I have never been griefed in in a dungeon or any of the Primals. Maybe im just lucky like that. But groups i end up in are always calm and fun.

Why don't you give an example of 'griefing' that would occur in the Tower?

It's all well and good that you enjoy using the duty finder to play with random and new people. which can be exciting at times, but its wrong that they're forcing people to use it when many, if not all end game fcs have been preparing to run it with one another.

[Asakura93]

This blind defense of everything the developers do...

The blind hate of everything the developrs do...

EDIT: The devs will NEVER be able to please you guys, sheesh. ~.~

(Hater's gonna hate)

[Sylve]

It's all well and good that you enjoy using the duty finder to play with random and new people. which can be exciting at times, but its wrong that they're forcing people to use it when many, if not all end game fcs have been preparing to run it with one another.

Im not sure how many times this needs to be said, but you realize the inability to queue as a 24 man Alliance is temporary, and is being fixed between 2.1 - 2.2, at worst 2.2 will fix it.

[Darkhaund]

My FC are not doing this BS dungeon untill we cna make our OWN alliance..

THIS IS RETARDED SE