Please get rid of surplus SP

[Rentahamster]

10% is so not going to hurt me that much and yes, efficency and speed is important so I can hit the barrier and grind something else, like I am supposed to. :P

lol, if you're all about "speed and efficiency", why are you in favor of the surplus system, which is totally not "speedy and efficient".

Anyway, so the desired behavior, as you put it, would be to "grind something else, like I am supposed to".

Now, don't you think, that from a gameplay design perspective, we should encourage that desired behavior through positive reinforcement and making the player WANT to grind something else, rather than FORCING him to grind something else all because he "hit the barrier" as you put it.

The problem with the fatigue system is that it negatively promotes the desired behavior and in the process pisses off a lot of the player base.

All we're saying is that SE should implement a system that both promotes the behavior that you think is so good, while not pissing off everyone else at the same time.

There is a solution that can please everyone, and promote the desired gameplay, and we should not cling on to the fatigue system which the majority of players loathe.

[MonsieurVerde]

There is a solution that can please everyone, and we should not cling on to the fatigue system which the majority of players loathe.

And we shouldn't trash it with complete abandon, like 90% of the people in this thread want.

[Erdrick]

I sign this petition to get rid of surplus and fatigue. IT'S CRAP. (:

[God]

It wasn't their cup of tea, so they quit. Big deal. O_o If you quit over fatigue you have issues that are better fixed in any other brand name MMO. No need to force change or completely scrap something just because it doesn't suit you.

IT DOESN'T SUIT 90% OF THE PLAYER BASE. Which is why this game is failing.

STOP TROLLING.

[God]

And we shouldn't trash it with complete abandon, like 90% of the people in this thread want.

LOL and tell us why again. Why should SE keep something that 90% of the people want gone and untold numbers have quit over?

[MonsieurVerde]

LOL and tell us why again. Why should SE keep something that 90% of the people want gone and untold numbers have quit over?

It wasn't their cup of tea, so they quit. Big deal. O_o If you quit over fatigue you have issues that are better fixed in any other brand name MMO. No need to force change or completely scrap something just because it doesn't suit you.

[Rentahamster]

It wasn't their cup of tea, so they quit. Big deal. O_o If you quit over fatigue you have issues that are better fixed in any other brand name MMO. No need to force change or completely scrap something just because it doesn't suit you.

"It wasn't their cup of tea, so they quit. Big deal."
It's a big deal to the shareholders who want to see profit.
It's a big deal to the developers who want their creation to be popular.
It's a big deal to the players who want to play a fun game on a server with lots of people.

"No need to force change or completely scrap something just because it doesn't suit you."
If he was the only one complaining, you'd be right. There wouldn't be any need to change. However, he's not the only one complaining. A majority of people hate the fatigue system, countless people have quit already because of it (as apparently, you'd prefer them to do), and even more people won't even give this game a chance in the first place because of all the negative publicity the fatigue system has given this game, fairly or unfairly.

But in the end, as objectively as I can put it, the fatigue system as it is currently implemented is totally stupid. Just replacing it with a "rested bonus XP" system would solve everything.

[Xedonius]

LOL wow the Blizzard employee's didn't waste any time at all getting on the XIV forums!! O.o

[God]

LOL wow the Blizzard employee's didn't waste any time at all getting on the XIV forums!! O.o

OMG THIS! This is excatly whats going on in this thread by these pro screw the players for playing people.

[Rentahamster]

And we shouldn't trash it with complete abandon, like 90% of the people in this thread want.

Only you think it's "trashing". To the rest of us, it is "constructive criticism" because we want to make this game successful, and we want more people to play it. It might be a little harsh, but that's only because the fatigue system is a horribly designed gameplay mechanic that promotes a certain behavior in all the wrong ways.