MVP Voting

[BooskiBoo]

Why are people crying about a system that isn'T even implemented yet? For which nothing's been revealed. Why the eff are people sulking over mere MVP points that will likely only score some useless (cool looking), novelty items?

Unless they put a mount that has a 2x sprint speed, (unlikely)... Otherwise, there pretty much is zero impact on anything. Just do DF as usual and become a useful member of the team. And get freebies as a sort of side reward.

[Hvinire]

In an effort to address some of your concerns we confirmed some information with the UI team we'll share with you all here:

The MVP vote takes place specifically after a dungeon boss is defeated. The process is entirely voluntary and players can choose not to make any vote at all. It is with this design in mind that we hope players only use the MVP system to reward helpful and exceptional players and encourage users to work towards that goal to receive a vote.

[Saevel]

I like tanks for sure since they are the most important role in a party, but god i lost so much faith in this community these last days...
Tanks playing diva, if you don't listen to what he says or does bad he'll just go off knowing that he's still popular because of his role.
Thinking that those players may get awarded gets me mad, that's all...
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That's just my statement and opinion, i find this system not helpfull for the community at all...
The one guy will hardly try to get the MVP doing the best he can, but in the end he'll just get dissapointed while he could just relax if this system didn't even exist.
It won't make players improve themselves, it will just make them mad and begin shouting shit...

Why would you be against a system that tacitly incentivizes players to not behave this way? Particularly one in which your participation is optional.

[Shirai]

The process is entirely voluntary and players can choose not to make any vote at all.

Aight, that's all I wanted to know.
Thanks!

[Musashidon]

so i wonder how many people will join in progress at the end beat the boss leave without voting and get a vote up rinse repeat not giving any votes and getting lots and lots of votes. (unless you're unable to do that going off as long as the boss dies at the end you get to vote)

well at least if the items are either untradable or completely worthless it wouldn't matter if people vote at all.

Why would you be against a system that tacitly incentivizes players to not behave this way? Particularly one in which your participation is optional.

the reason people will be unhappy with it is because of how many will try to do their best to abuse rig or trick the system to benefit them definitely if it gives good items.

because if it does it will do the exact opposite of what they want to happen.

[Nikita]

Musashidon... First, I am not going to vote for tanks, for anyone that uses the party in progress option. There really is no way to "abuse" this system unless you're saying that going out of your way to help the members of your party is abusing the system (if that is "abusing the system" to you then who cares as long as they are being helpful LOL). Really at this point you're grasping for straws as to why it's a bad idea. They already said the rewards are cosmetic. Please stop making up BS reasons as to why they shouldn't add this. To anyone with a functioning brain you are only embarrassing yourself.

[Kuinu]

I'd rather not have this system implemented. I mean, there are jerks in DF, indeed, but there are also good players. Yet ,a MVP system wouldn't help at all; I'm already thinking of people "scamming points" by the method of "MVP me and I MVP you", but running away with it (Which has no particular point, but Internet gonna Internet).

Other than that, the congestion in DF; People's not going to do premade parties anymore, they'll just farm MVP and be jerks about every DF when they do not get it "Because the DF parties don't follow his/her strategy." Fancy cool vanities won't turn some players' behavior for better, but rock-hard banhammering. I, myself, don't care that much about MVP, I'm not going to ask for votes, nor gonna buy vanities that will take up space on my inventory, but at least I expect my party members to behave as decently as they can.

These kind of "rewarding systems" always get exploited somehow. The community is negatively intelligent; remember that.

[Cegiana]

Musashidon... First, I am not going to vote for tanks, for anyone that uses the party in progress option. There really is no way to "abuse" this system unless you're saying that going out of your way to help the members of your party is abusing the system (if that is "abusing the system" to you then who cares as long as they are being helpful LOL). Really at this point you're grasping for straws as to why it's a bad idea. They already said the rewards are cosmetic. To anyone with a functioning brain you are only embarrassing yourself.

Saying you are not going to vote for tanks, regardless of whether or not they use the "in progress" option, isn't that an abuse of the system in itself? If the tank did better than the rest and guided everyone safely, yet you don't vote for him/her just because s/he is a tank? I don't think you should be commenting on other people's "functioning brain" with the decision you just made.

Also, to those that are saying things like, "well this might encourage some to work hard and pay attention during runs, only to not get MVP at the end." Ummm, shouldn't you be working hard anyway? If it takes MVP points to make someone try their best, then that person doesn't deserve anything, you should TRY HARD EVERY SINGLE TIME. If you're too tired to try hard or are sick of doing the same run over and over to the point where you don't try hard, then maybe it's time to log out and do something else. The rest of the party shouldn't have to put up with you being useless just because you know that others will pick up the slack for you.

What we need is a player rating system, if you don't do a good job, you get special points. Once you have enough of these special points, you should then be forced to move into "Special" servers where they move all the useless bums into so the rest of us don't have to ever play with them, which of course means that they should have their own instanced raids, so they don't ever mix them up with us again, under any conditions. Or just add a "Play With Legacy Only" option for all Legacy characters in the Duty Finder menu, that should make all the runs go over much more smoother with people who are more likely to try hard and actually understand their roles in the party. Also, Legacy servers should be legacy only and people who want to transfer to a legacy server should have the entire storyline complete and be required to have a minimum of 3 LVL50 battle jobs, but I guess it's too late to do that.

[Hvinire]

The MVP vote takes place specifically after a dungeon boss is defeated.

Just to further clarify if anyone was confused, the MVP vote takes place after the last boss in the dungeon is defeated.

[Giantbane]

It would help me to know voting was fair by something I can gauge mathematically.

What if there is a visual display of who filled the limit gauge the most to assist in voting? Filling the bar is already based on party contribution, so if nothing memorable happened in the fight, I'd like to cast my vote to the player who contributed the most in that aspect.

really? that's how it's going to work? That's just stupid.

I assumed (badly i guess) that it was going to be some sort of contribution system similar to fates where damage done/damage taken/whatever would add to determine the MVP. This is just going to be too arbitrary.