Please add iLvl sync to save new end game content from being facerolled.

[Maqaqa]

Well you have ways of doing that - You don't need to force your challenge on others though. You should work on Twintania more though if you still aren't killing it (or is that challenge too much for you and your friends?)
Also don't lump me in with you, I'm not lazy.

There are things called real life, family and job that prevents us from spending 7 days a week at the coil.
Being there by playing 2 days a week with a linkshell is quite an achievement for us.

[Reslin]

There are things called real life, family and job that prevents us from spending 7 days a week at the coil.
Being there by playing 2 days a week with a linkshell is quite an achievement for us.

The irony. You complain about not having time but instead of wanting something to be more difficult you ask for the time it takes to complete things to be longer. This boggles my mind.

[Maqaqa]

The irony. You complain about not having time but instead of wanting something to be more difficult you ask for the time it takes to complete things to be longer. This boggles my mind.

Read better, i never complained about not having TIME. It is my business how i organize my time.
I complained about not having a CHALLENGE outside of a very few instances.
What is mindboggling is how many of you think that getting gear to faceroll easier content is the best this game has to offer.

[EmSix]

Read better, i never complained about not having TIME.
I complained about not having a CHALLENGE outside of a very few instances.

Doing less damage is not a challenge.
Stop mistaking a time investment as a challenge.
Mechanics are challenging, doing less damage is not.
On top of that - The more you complete something the less challenging it becomes by sheer experience, you're never going to have an ever repeating challenge.

[EmSix]

Still waiting for a reply to this post:

Doing less damage is not a challenge.
Stop mistaking a time investment as a challenge.
Mechanics are challenging, doing less damage is not.
On top of that - The more you complete something the less challenging it becomes by sheer experience, you're never going to have an ever repeating challenge.

But I guess arguing that one is too much of a challenge.

[Alberel]

Still waiting for a reply to this post:

But I guess arguing that one is too much of a challenge.

I'll bite on this one. The point is quite simple really; you're just deliberately ignoring all the other effects that gear scaling would have. You wouldn't just have lower damage, you would also have lower healing, lower health and lower threat generation. Couple those with a fight taking longer as a result and you have many many more chances to fail a dodge and it would be far harder to recover from them.

I can't help but laugh at the implication that lower stats don't make a fight challenging... it's as if you're trying to suggest outgearing a dungeon doesn't make it easier. Those parties that want overgeared people for AK or WP don't just do it because of the speed boost. The fact that many of them don't even bother to dodge AOEs any more simply because the damage is negligible and easily healed is proof of that.

[Reslin]

I'll bite on this one. The point is quite simple really; you're just deliberately ignoring all the other effects that gear scaling would have. You wouldn't just have lower damage, you would also have lower healing, lower health and lower threat generation. Couple those with a fight taking longer as a result and you have many many more chances to fail a dodge and it would be far harder to recover from them.

Except many of us are so experienced with AK/WP it doesn't matter if we have "uber gear or not." We're still going to most likely one shot it. My first time in AK was on my scholar in my artifact gear and white/pink jewelery. Three wipes and a completion. That was my first time doing AK. Trust me when I say the only challenge would be "Did I get paired up with competent players" If the answer is yes "Faceroll." if the answer is no "Leave Party." If I group with my FC buddies or my irl friends it's going to be a faceroll regardless.

It's better for dungeons to be designed with our existing gear in mind. Dungeons that do offer an extreme challenge WITH our current gear. Dungeons that as I become more experienced and get the gear from said dungeons what used to be an extreme challenge becomes something simple. To look back and think "Look how far I've come. This used to be hard but now it's nothing. I'm so much more powerful than what I first started here."

[EmSix]

Going to answer this in parts.

I'll bite on this one. The point is quite simple really; you're just deliberately ignoring all the other effects that gear scaling would have. You wouldn't just have lower damage, you would also have lower healing, lower health and lower threat generation. Couple those with a fight taking longer as a result and you have many many more chances to fail a dodge and it would be far harder to recover from them.

The damage on the monsters is tuned so that lower healing would just be the "expected" healing - Having better gear just means you're healing less often than you usually would (most good WHMs fill in this free time with nukes) it's not harder, you're just having to cast more.
Lower health is moot too, again damaged is tuned. The only fight in any raid that ilevel scaling could affect would be Tonberry King, and even then grudge still only hits for around 4k (your average tank has 4.5k in just AF).
Lower threat generation is moot, because as you so rightly said, cures and damage is already lowered, so you don't need as much enmity.

I can't help but laugh at the implication that lower stats don't make a fight challenging... it's as if you're trying to suggest outgearing a dungeon doesn't make it easier. Those parties that want overgeared people for AK or WP don't just do it because of the speed boost. The fact that many of them don't even bother to dodge AOEs any more simply because the damage is negligible and easily healed is proof of that.

All this does is give a little leeway, a good player will still dodge an AoE regardless of whether or not it's going to hurt them a lot or slightly. At low iLevel, you dodge because oh shit, that hurts. At high iLevel you dodge because it wastes time the WHM could use nuking.

Experience will always trump gear. Once you learn the dungeon it becomes permanently easier. All iLevel scaling would do is slow things down.

[Reslin]

Read better, i never complained about not having TIME. It is my business how i organize my time.
I complained about not having a CHALLENGE outside of a very few instances.
What is mindboggling is how many of you think that getting gear to faceroll easier content is the best this game has to offer.

You're not asking for anything to be more challenging. You say you want things to be more challenging but you still don't provide a solution or a suggestion. You ask for things to take longer not be harder.

[Maqaqa]

You're not asking for anything to be more challenging. You say you want things to be more challenging but you still don't provide a solution or a suggestion. You ask for things to take longer not be harder.

No im asking for lvl 50 and above instances to work EXACTLY like any instance below level 50 already works.
No more, no less.

We are getting to the point where we faceroll content to get better gear to faceroll content faster to get better gear to faceroll content faster to...

Some one will get my point.

edit to EmSix:

Still waiting for a reply to this post:

But I guess arguing that one is too much of a challenge.

You know there is a daily post limit... right? Even if i wanted to reply, i cant
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