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    To those who say don't use Macros for Bard.... seriously just go play another class cause you are giving bad advice on a class you are playing.

    Bards don't use 1 they don't use 2 macros. A perfect bard puts Misery's End and Bloodletter on almost every GCD skill from Heavy Shot, Straight Shot, Venomous Bite and Windbite. You're just gimping yourself for not doing it. Everytime I go up against another bard and If i hear my Misery's End sound effect going off faster and more often than "THAT" other bard I know they are not using macros.

    DO not freaking use /wait 2.5 on a macro geez more freaking bad advice. There is no need to!

    Also who says you can't macro Monk Combos? You just put them in a reverse combo and it works 100% of the time so you can focus on positioning only. But that is another debate for another thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    A perfect bard puts Misery's End and Bloodletter on almost every GCD skill from Heavy Shot, Straight Shot, Venomous Bite and Windbite.
    A perfect BRD would not do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danko View Post
    A perfect BRD would not do this.
    and again why not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thailer View Post
    and again why not?
    wasted non-GCD skill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterob View Post
    wasted non-GCD skill
    not even close
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danko View Post
    A perfect BRD would not do this.
    sooooooo many bad brds play this game.... omg
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    DO not freaking use /wait 2.5 on a macro geez more freaking bad advice. There is no need to!
    Excuse me..why is the /wait 2.5 a bad idea if I use skills that ignores GCD? otherwise it wont work the whole chain, if you can please enlighten me since I didn t think that would be a "problem" thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy_M View Post
    Excuse me..why is the /wait 2.5 a bad idea if I use skills that ignores GCD? otherwise it wont work the whole chain, if you can please enlighten me since I didn t think that would be a "problem" thanks
    /wait 2.5 rounds up to 3 seconds, so over time it'll waste enough half-seconds to be a dps loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tua View Post
    /wait 2.5 rounds up to 3 seconds, so over time it'll waste enough half-seconds to be a dps loss.
    I see but the 2 secs doesn t make the next skill to go on time, suggestions? I also use other skills that ignores GCD along with buffs so it s not like I m standing there doing nothing until those 2.5 secs pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tua View Post
    /wait 2.5 rounds up to 3 seconds, so over time it'll waste enough half-seconds to be a dps loss.
    *edit - Nvm, additional testing, and you are right about this. Decimal points don't work, they just round up or down.

    Nonetheless:
    The ACTUAL problem with macros, as has been stated several times in this thread is that they disable the Command Queue for actions that are ON the global cooldown.
    Why is this a problem?
    Because without the server side command queue, you basically have to wait 2x your latency longer to execute an ON global action.

    Example of how you can test this:
    Write 4 macros identical to this for Straight Shot, Windbite, Venomous Bite, and Heavy Shot.
    /ac "Straight Shot" <t>
    /ac "Bloodletter" <t>

    Then go outside and shoot at something while trying to run through Straight Shot, Windbite, Venomous Bite, Heavy Shot. You will quickly notice that you have to wait until your client updates that the GCD is refreshed before it lets you use the next skill.
    Now replace those 4 macros with the skill buttons for Straight Shot, Windbite, Venomous Bite, and Heavy shot. Again, fire them in order and you will notice that you can actually press the button early and it will go off BEFORE the client shows your GCD is actually ready.
    This is because of the server side command queue.

    If you macro your main ON global cooldown abilities, then you potentially delay your Global Cooldown skills by 2x your latency every single global.
    In short fights this won't make much of a difference at all. In 5+ minute long fights, it could mean as much as 10% lower dps even with average latency.
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    Last edited by Bardo; 11-16-2013 at 01:19 PM.

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