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    Is there a DPS difference between Macro'd non Macro'd? I have used Macro's and sometimes do not I am wondering if there is a definitive reason to not use them, because as it is now using them just gives you less to worry about and more hotbar space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonC View Post
    Is there a DPS difference between Macro'd non Macro'd? I have used Macro's and sometimes do not I am wondering if there is a definitive reason to not use them, because as it is now using them just gives you less to worry about and more hotbar space.
    To be honest no idea besides pressing 1-2-3-4 or the same chain or pretty much the same one besides the ones that ignore GCD, that s why I m wondering why my 2.5 it s a bad idea if I use skills between that time, I think they "feel" somehow it s faster because they are using turbo a key until it goes, but since the universal cooldown it s pretty much that one it shouldn t make a difference.

    Does someone else please suggest something about this matter? Thanks
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    Cause as others have stated, numerical for macro are rounded up. So you can either have sub 2.0 which pretty much is irrelevant and 3.0 which is a DPS loss. Secondly, in the event that something crops up like needing to do Silence while in the 2-3 second wait your macro will require to fire the first skill again and wait 2-3 seconds again for the subsequent one.

    So in the event you get a River of Blood proc, ADS cast High Voltage you press Blunt Arrow you will miss that last River of Blood proc and if casting another GCD skill and then it should be 3 seconds pass and a next tick will happen if that happens to proc River of Blood although in your scenario you may never know, you have effectively lost 2 River of Blood Bloodletters.

    @Sterob
    There is no wasted off GCD skill, that's just stupid talk. See it this way for every Bloodletter full CD with no River of Blood proc the later you press Bloodletter the lesser Bloodletter you get. Same applies for Misery's End.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    Cause as others have stated, numerical for macro are rounded up. So you can either have sub 2.0 which pretty much is irrelevant and 3.0 which is a DPS loss. Secondly, in the event that something crops up like needing to do Silence while in the 2-3 second wait your macro will require to fire the first skill again and wait 2-3 seconds again for the subsequent one.
    That s quite odd if I place 2 secs the next command WONT GO, about silence yes you can use Blunt anytime since it ignores GCD, that s why you have to pay attention to the mobs movement, I think were aren t misunderstanding it s not like you press a macro and don t do anything else, Each time that 2.5 wait appears I m using a skill that ignores GCD like buffs as soon they are up or ME along with others. You can cancel a macro command with a normal hotkey command anytime as long it s after the animation and it happends the same if you don t use macros.
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    Bards use macro for one reason... To get off Misery's End and Bloodletter ASAP as it is 2 of our major damage supplement. You will know the difference when you see one bard capable of Misery Ending every Titan's Gaol.
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    Maybe I am slow or something but I have tried this for the last 15 mins and I notice no difference. My macro is in reverse order of yours though. I use the GCD skill last and ME, BL 1st and 2nd respectively. The skill latency is exactly the same. I just want to maximize every little bit of DPS I can so I would like to know how other people fair doing this.
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    As I keep saying, you are breaking the golden rule with these macros, which is that no oGCD ability should ever be higher priority than a GCD one.
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    We want ME and BL casted any time they are up.....
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    I think there are really dumb people in this thread to think either the following scenarios:
    1. Macro which involves having more than one GCD skill with all the other oGCD
    2. People thinking that not using oGCD still which has quicker animation, puts the oGCD skill on CD earlier, animation can be cancelled by GCD skills. And has 150 -190 Potency.

    Know this fact if you don't use your Bloodletter ASAP your next DoT tick will have a possibility of cause you to lose upwards of T/15*150 Potency damage and more if a River of Blood Proc happens before you put it on CD. For each second you delay Misery's end you lose T/12*190 potency damage.

    Putting the following macro:
    /ac "heavy shot" <t>
    /ac "misery's End" <t>
    /ac "Bloodletter" <t>

    is in itself broken and if you have lags it will keep queing up heavy shots.

    The following macro:
    /ac "Misery's End" <t>
    /ac "Bloodletter" <t>
    /ac "Heavy Shot" <t>

    will always ensure Misery's end go off fire if you have a GCD, Bloodletter off CD. Because Misery's End is our highest potency action.
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    Last edited by TaneshimaPopura; 11-17-2013 at 05:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    I think there are really dumb people in this thread to think either the following scenarios:

    Know this fact if you don't use your Bloodletter ASAP your next DoT tick will have a possibility of cause you to lose upwards of T/15*150 Potency damage and more if a River of Blood Proc happens before you put it on CD. For each second you delay Misery's end you lose T/12*190 potency damage.

    Putting the following macro:
    /ac "heavy shot" <t>
    /ac "misery's End" <t>
    /ac "Bloodletter" <t>

    is in itself broken and if you have lags it will keep queing up heavy shots.

    The following macro:
    /ac "Misery's End" <t>
    /ac "Bloodletter" <t>
    /ac "Heavy Shot" <t>

    will always ensure Misery's end go off fire if you have a GCD, Bloodletter off CD. Because Misery's End is our highest potency action.
    FFS THANK YOU!! But you know people still aint gonna listen...
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