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    Quote Originally Posted by Thailer View Post
    and again why not?
    wasted non-GCD skill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sterob View Post
    wasted non-GCD skill
    not even close
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danko View Post
    A perfect BRD would not do this.
    sooooooo many bad brds play this game.... omg
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    DO not freaking use /wait 2.5 on a macro geez more freaking bad advice. There is no need to!
    Excuse me..why is the /wait 2.5 a bad idea if I use skills that ignores GCD? otherwise it wont work the whole chain, if you can please enlighten me since I didn t think that would be a "problem" thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy_M View Post
    Excuse me..why is the /wait 2.5 a bad idea if I use skills that ignores GCD? otherwise it wont work the whole chain, if you can please enlighten me since I didn t think that would be a "problem" thanks
    /wait 2.5 rounds up to 3 seconds, so over time it'll waste enough half-seconds to be a dps loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tua View Post
    /wait 2.5 rounds up to 3 seconds, so over time it'll waste enough half-seconds to be a dps loss.
    I see but the 2 secs doesn t make the next skill to go on time, suggestions? I also use other skills that ignores GCD along with buffs so it s not like I m standing there doing nothing until those 2.5 secs pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tua View Post
    /wait 2.5 rounds up to 3 seconds, so over time it'll waste enough half-seconds to be a dps loss.
    *edit - Nvm, additional testing, and you are right about this. Decimal points don't work, they just round up or down.

    Nonetheless:
    The ACTUAL problem with macros, as has been stated several times in this thread is that they disable the Command Queue for actions that are ON the global cooldown.
    Why is this a problem?
    Because without the server side command queue, you basically have to wait 2x your latency longer to execute an ON global action.

    Example of how you can test this:
    Write 4 macros identical to this for Straight Shot, Windbite, Venomous Bite, and Heavy Shot.
    /ac "Straight Shot" <t>
    /ac "Bloodletter" <t>

    Then go outside and shoot at something while trying to run through Straight Shot, Windbite, Venomous Bite, Heavy Shot. You will quickly notice that you have to wait until your client updates that the GCD is refreshed before it lets you use the next skill.
    Now replace those 4 macros with the skill buttons for Straight Shot, Windbite, Venomous Bite, and Heavy shot. Again, fire them in order and you will notice that you can actually press the button early and it will go off BEFORE the client shows your GCD is actually ready.
    This is because of the server side command queue.

    If you macro your main ON global cooldown abilities, then you potentially delay your Global Cooldown skills by 2x your latency every single global.
    In short fights this won't make much of a difference at all. In 5+ minute long fights, it could mean as much as 10% lower dps even with average latency.
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    Last edited by Bardo; 11-16-2013 at 01:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Quick correction here, it most definitely does NOT round up.
    It's a know fact that it does round either up or down. It's easy to test, just create a macro like this:

    /wait 0.4
    /wait 0.4
    /wait 0.4
    /wait 0.4
    /wait 0.4
    /wait 0.4
    /wait 0.4
    /wait 0.4
    /wait 0.4
    /wait 0.4
    /s Finished


    and another like:

    /wait 0.5
    /wait 0.5
    /wait 0.5
    /wait 0.5
    /wait 0.5
    /wait 0.5
    /wait 0.5
    /wait 0.5
    /wait 0.5
    /wait 0.5
    /s Finished



    The 1st macro will end instantly (rounded to 0s) instead of in 4s while the 2nd will take 10s (rounded to 1s) instead of 5s.

    Not only does it round up, but macros also cannot be queued, meaning while a regular ability is queued up approx. 0.5s before the ability GCD concludes and activates as soon as it finishes, macros do not activate until the button press following the GCD finishing.

    DPS/Healing macros are generally a bad idea.
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    Last edited by Garnatian; 11-16-2013 at 03:50 AM.

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    If you macro your main ON global cooldown abilities, then you potentially delay your Global Cooldown skills by 2x your latency every single global.
    In short fights this won't make much of a difference at all. In 5+ minute long fights, it could mean as much as 10% lower dps even with average latency.
    We have a winner!

    Macroing OFF Global Cooldown Abilities onto your Global Cooldown abilities is not a DPS gain because of the delay it causes to your Global Cooldown. Which in and of itself is a direct DPS loss but also cannibalizes straighter shot damage due to less heavy shot spam over time.

    If you absolutely insist on making a one button macro for your Off Cool Downs, make a separate one for them and weave them in between your GCD. But even then, you are sacrificing situational optimization to do that.

    The only real good reason to use these types of one button macros is if you do not care about optimal DPS and just want to spam one or two buttons for passable DPS without having to think too much about it. Depending on the player and the level of consistency with which you can keep up with your abilities, this could be a DPS increase for you. This is not optimal DPS for the job, however.
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    Last edited by Danko; 11-16-2013 at 05:18 AM.

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    OP, to answer your question, yes you can use macros for a BRD. Use the ones posted earlier in the thread that assigned bloodletter and miserys end to heavy, straight, venomous, and wind. I have tested it multiple times on dummies manual and with macros and I literally see no difference aside from RNG. I've also cleared BC using these macros and the only time I have ever had any issue with a macro was getting animation locked and missing a silence like 1 time on turn 2. I also have all my hot keys on my naga set to repeat at their max speed while being pressed so I don't see how a "delay" would even be a problem.
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