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    SilverRhythm's Avatar
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    OP congratz on able to clear BC that quick XD.

    Anyways looking at the current progress of most players, turn 5 is not cleared yet by the majority of players. Basically turn 5 is created as a rather difficult challenge by SE to keep the majority players busy trying to conquer this finale so that they do not flood with complains of having lack of endgame.

    It's good to try to be the first in everything, and then complete everything real quick to be a leader, but yes, you also need to expect a stagnant period coming after that as you wait for the new contents to release. Every games are the same, new contents are not gonna release every day, it takes time.

    Only way is just set another goal like maybe becoming the richest player in the game

    Edit: Imagine if there have been no video guides or whatsoever guides on the dungeons/raids, you will definitely consume way more time trying to conquer the endgame. It is just thanks to those guides, things were made so much easier.
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    lol for me it was like

    getting up in the morning
    playing AK just 1 time
    take a bath
    go to work

    for a whoolllleeee week

    you know... "casual"
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    My reaction on king moogle...

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    So you're only going to work on Twintania, the hardest content of the game, with your Coil group one day a week? That sounds like a dynamite strategy, and kind of funny for someone who posts "(clear)" as something he does with his raiding in just one day. Or really, one hour, as you put it. And yet you're only just now starting Twintania?

    Troll OP says troll things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverRhythm View Post
    OP congratz on able to clear BC that quick XD.

    Anyways looking at the current progress of most players, turn 5 is not cleared yet by the majority of players. Basically turn 5 is created as a rather difficult challenge by SE to keep the majority players busy trying to conquer this finale so that they do not flood with complaints of having lack of endgame.

    Edit: Imagine if there have been no video guides or whatsoever guides on the dungeons/raids, you will definitely consume way more time trying to conquer the endgame. It is just thanks to those guides, things were made so much easier.
    Exactly. I personally hope there is a lockout on CT. My group will CT & BC twice a wk, if SE regulations permit. Seriously, how does one become bored here? Also, a majority of ppl wouldn't be bored if they didn't cheat using Youtube, but instead used their brains to actually say, figure it out on their own. Probably that's expecting too much.
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    "Aliens will never attack Earth. There isn't enough brain activity."

    "SE set the bar with FF11, like it or not. They could do it again if they would use the common sense God gave them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan_Moonkeeper View Post
    Exactly. I personally hope there is a lockout on CT. My group will CT & BC twice a wk, if SE regulations permit. Seriously, how does one become bored here? Also, a majority of ppl wouldn't be bored if they didn't cheat using Youtube, but instead used their brains to actually say, figure it out on their own. Probably that's expecting too much.
    I hate reading guides, or watching videos... but, one week after content is released, people require you to have "experience" to join their groups (that means, never failing). On the duty finder, failing means someone will leave and back to the queue with you. It really sucks being pressured into spoiling the content or not doing it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan_Moonkeeper View Post
    Also, a majority of ppl wouldn't be bored if they didn't cheat using Youtube, but instead used their brains to actually say, figure it out on their own.
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    Also, a majority of ppl wouldn't be bored if they didn't cheat using Youtube,
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    wouldn't be bored if they didn't cheat using Youtube,
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    if they didn't cheat using Youtube
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    cheat using Youtube
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    cheat
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    Youtube
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsukai123 View Post
    You can post all the witty gifs you can, what she says is true.

    The foundation of every RPG game was trying a boss over and over again until you figure out that the Weapon dies when it runs out of MP, or that you're supposed to use Steal on Rubicante.

    When you go watch videos or read strategies of whatever, you not only spoil the very challenge of it; you ruin the whole surprise, exploration and excitement of a place. But most importantly, you make the effort of the developer a waste. They put in time creating those mechanics for you to figure out, then you simply don't figure it out. This is not intended by the developer, thus it's cheating.

    Not directed to you, but a general rant:
    It really sucks that we live in a generation obsessed with guides. I swear, you can't search for a game without seeing "guide" as one of the most common terms. Learn to walk with your own feet and maybe you'll find a game that's challenging and exciting. Until then, keep on complaining on the forums that it's "easy", "has no content" and "it is too short".

    Anyone who've played on the 80s/90s knows how hard information came by, so you had to figure everything by yourself or with friends. The games though were incredibly simple. The problem is not current games or developers, but the gamer's mentality of wanting everything the easiest and fastest way.

    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    Is going to lectures cheating too or even taking driving lessons. You should go in blind into your driving test or exam and wing it .

    Because watching someone else do it = doing it yourself
    You can't try again if you fail on the real life.
    Analogies bringing real life into gaming discussion never works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The majority aren't being punished by a lockout because the majority will never play the locked out content in the first place (The majority of players don't even reach the level cap in any given MMO).
    "The majority that is doing/intend on doing Coil"...
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    Last edited by Ri_ri; 11-19-2013 at 05:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    You can post all the witty gifs you can, what she says is true.

    The foundation of every RPG game was trying a boss over and over again until you figure out that the Weapon dies when it runs out of MP, or that you're supposed to use Steal on Rubicante.

    When you go watch videos or read strategies of whatever, you not only spoil the very challenge of it; you ruin the whole surprise, exploration and excitement of a place. But most importantly, you make the effort of the developer a waste. They put in time creating those mechanics for you to figure out, then you simply don't figure it out. This is not intended by the developer, thus it's cheating.

    Not directed to you, but a general rant:
    It really su----
    I could agree with this post, sadly unless I look at a video I am unable to participate in any Coil pugs, instant kick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan_Moonkeeper View Post
    Also, a majority of ppl wouldn't be bored if they didn't cheat using Youtube,
    oh good, your a perfect example of your sig.

    using a youtube/walkthrough site isn't cheating, its acquiring knowledge prior to an event so you don't go in blindly. what your saying is like saying that an american general is cheating against an enemy if he reads a book on their tactics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saber_alter View Post
    using a youtube/walkthrough site isn't cheating, its acquiring knowledge prior to an event so you don't go in blindly. what your saying is like saying that an american general is cheating against an enemy if he reads a book on their tactics.
    It is cheating. Seriously how else would you describe it? A fly on the wall in the enemy's camp? Perhaps a spy. Yes that's it! Seeing the Primals HM are basically repetitive moves of regulars, you shouldn't have to enlighten yourself with their tactics. So in theory your point has no merit.

    Justify it however you like. Sugar-coating doesn't change the fact from what it really is... A lack of the ability to devise your own winning strategy. Hence relying on the strategies of others. lol Such a cookie cutter.
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    "Aliens will never attack Earth. There isn't enough brain activity."

    "SE set the bar with FF11, like it or not. They could do it again if they would use the common sense God gave them."

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