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  1. #11
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    NeoAmon's Avatar
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    Sparda Amon
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Skinwalker View Post
    In that case SE has to add new content every 2 weeks :P Personally I'm still pissed that its even 100% drop rate. To many crybabys wanted higher drop rate and now we have that stupid lock out after clearing. Thx again <.<

    I would prefer now lock out and low drop rate... Because, lets face it, T1-T4 can be done in 2hrs ...
    May I have whatever you are smoking? You want low drop chance and no lock out? My Group clears coil T1-T4 in less than 50 minutes when we are in a good mode and 70 minutes if we are f***ing around. If it was a low drop chance and no lock out we would be farming T1-T4 day and night none stop like the old good CM days until everyone is full ilvl90 within a week.
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  2. #12
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    Holo Wisewolf
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    May I have of whatever you are smoking? You want low drop chance and no lock out? My Group clears coil T1-T4 in less than 50 minutes when we are in a good mode and 70 minutes if we are f***ing around. If it was a low drop chance and no lock out we would be farming T1-T4 day and night none stop like the old good CM days until everyone is full ilvl90 within a week.
    Have to agree here because I forgot about this point, so no lock out but random drop rate is farm all day everyday and gear up in all allagan in what would take maybe a week or 2.
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  3. #13
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    axemtitanium's Avatar
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    Titania Basilikos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WiseWolfHolo View Post
    Have to agree here because I forgot about this point, so no lock out but random drop rate is farm all day everyday and gear up in all allagan in what would take maybe a week or 2.
    No thank you. I ran CC/AV well over 200 times and never got my HDL body. At least with 100% drop rate, SOMEONE is getting something every time. There's room to improve the current loot system but going back to 1.0 version is not it.
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  4. #14
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    Shiyo Kozuki
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by axemtitanium View Post
    No thank you. I ran CC/AV well over 200 times and never got my HDL body. At least with 100% drop rate, SOMEONE is getting something every time. There's room to improve the current loot system but going back to 1.0 version is not it.
    Being able to play the game is more fun than being locked out of content. Restrictions and lock outs as well as being told how often and how much you can play in a MMO you're paying monthly does not work. Leave restrictions and lock outs to free to play MMO's, unless this game is trying it's hardest take the worst of F2P MMO's(restrictions/lock outs/limited playing time) as well as the worst of pay to play(monthly sub) and combining it into a new game?
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  5. #15
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    Skinwalker's Avatar
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    Latura Skinwalker
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    May I have whatever you are smoking? You want low drop chance and no lock out? My Group clears coil T1-T4 in less than 50 minutes when we are in a good mode and 70 minutes if we are f***ing around. If it was a low drop chance and no lock out we would be farming T1-T4 day and night none stop like the old good CM days until everyone is full ilvl90 within a week.
    Depends on how low the drop rates are and its always up to you how often you're doing the dungeon. But If you happy to clear the serious EG in less then 50 Min for a WHOLE WEEK! and then beeing unable to reenter again (not to mention what happen when ppl get used to T5... There is the only "motivation" to go on imo). Then my friend I keep smoking the the stuff that makes you curious and leave it here.
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  6. #16
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    Ryios Locke
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 68
    Lockouts are gay, the one thing about wow everyone fregin hates and yet every game adopts it because wow was so sucessful... Well I tell you this, it sure as heck wasn't successful due to it's lockout mechanics.
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  7. #17
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    Danorille Pandemonium
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    Tonberry
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    Blacksmith Lv 61
    i only want them to balance the drops between chests, im fine with dropping items your group can't equip, whats to say you wont need it in the future when you change to other jobs?
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  8. #18
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    Being able to play the game is more fun than being locked out of content. Restrictions and lock outs as well as being told how often and how much you can play in a MMO you're paying monthly does not work. Leave restrictions and lock outs to free to play MMO's, unless this game is trying it's hardest take the worst of F2P MMO's(restrictions/lock outs/limited playing time) as well as the worst of pay to play(monthly sub) and combining it into a new game?
    Raid lockouts have worked and still work for the most successful mmo in history, which still is WoW.
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  9. #19
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    Ryios Locke
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    Coeurl
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    Lockouts don't work, people have no choice.

    Just because wow is the most successful doesn't mean people like the lockout system, they just have no choice on the lockout system. You don't define success on a feature of a product by how many people use the product, you define succcess on a feature by how many people like the feature. And I bet you if you did a random poll of wow's user base on their opinions on the lockout system they would say it sucks, or they like it because they know of no other way.
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  10. #20
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    Ladon's Avatar
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    Resa Nome
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I think Mythology tombs already covers for this issue. Don't see a real need for two iLevel 90 sets to be on a token system.
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