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    It's funny how some of you saying there new mmo going to fail due to FFXIV failing and if Tanaka is leader of the team you wont play it. Is it me or is a company not in title for a bad release of a game? there only human and Tanaka just took the blame for the Company there no need to blame him for the stockholder/CEO for wanting the game to be release in 2010. If this game was release in Q3 of 2011 and had a beta sense Q2 of 2010 this game would have been better. But guess what? the game is pretty much is in Beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    It's funny how some of you saying there new mmo going to fail due to FFXIV failing and if Tanaka is leader of the team you wont play it. Is it me or is a company not in title for a bad release of a game? there only human and Tanaka just took the blame for the Company there no need to blame him for the stockholder/CEO for wanting the game to be release in 2010. If this game was release in Q3 of 2011 and had a beta sense Q2 of 2010 this game would have been better. But guess what? the game is pretty much is in Beta.
    YOU ARE CORRECT!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    It's funny how some of you saying there new mmo going to fail due to FFXIV failing and if Tanaka is leader of the team you wont play it. Is it me or is a company not in title for a bad release of a game? there only human and Tanaka just took the blame for the Company there no need to blame him for the stockholder/CEO for wanting the game to be release in 2010. If this game was release in Q3 of 2011 and had a beta sense Q2 of 2010 this game would have been better. But guess what? the game is pretty much is in Beta.
    Their track record so far has been horrible. FF11 was in a similar state as 14 and it took them about a year to fix it. They just had the luxury of being one of the few MMO's out there so were able to recover. FF14 is up in the air whether the playerbase will forgive that again or not. Whether its the dev's or suits fault regardless there's a failure somewhere when someone can't realize the game isn't ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radaghast View Post
    Their track record so far has been horrible. FF11 was in a similar state as 14 and it took them about a year to fix it. They just had the luxury of being one of the few MMO's out there so were able to recover. FF14 is up in the air whether the playerbase will forgive that again or not. Whether its the dev's or suits fault regardless there's a failure somewhere when someone can't realize the game isn't ready.
    FF11 did not even come out in NA so does not even matter if it was horrible Japan was testing it.

    I think one of the interview one of them said the game not ready and we need more time but i think CEO just did not listen to there request i think the CEO is what making SE have such a bad track record that and and when einix join Square.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    FF11 did not even come out in NA so does not even matter if it was horrible Japan was testing it.

    I think one of the interview one of them said the game not ready and we need more time but i think CEO just did not listen to there request i think the CEO is what making SE have such a bad track record that and and when einix join Square.
    I think you missed his point. FF11 could afford the mistakes in their first year because it was one of the few MMORPGs available to play. Right now, FFXIV cannot afford to be in the state it is in much longer, and SE decided to take up a new MMORPG in order to make more profit off of that, perhaps using a different title than Final Fantasy because of the reputation the FF games have been given recently.

    FFXIV has more competition right now as FFXI didn't, that's what he meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    I think you missed his point. FF11 could afford the mistakes in their first year because it was one of the few MMORPGs available to play. Right now, FFXIV cannot afford to be in the state it is in much longer, and SE decided to take up a new MMORPG in order to make more profit off of that, perhaps using a different title than Final Fantasy because of the reputation the FF games have been given recently.

    FFXIV has more competition right now as FFXI didn't, that's what he meant.
    i don't even know why they making a new MMO to start with making a new mmo would lose more money then gain but iguess they thinking of the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    i don't even know why they making a new MMO to start with making a new mmo would lose more money then gain but iguess they thinking of the long run.
    That's what I'd expect from any video game company, or companies in general. When making a product, you have to think about how much of it is going to be sold, and how much profit you could make. You can't just have an idea and go along with it, it has to be analyzed and tested, perhaps even surveyed, to get an idea of Need vs Cost.

    With a Video Game company, you have to take an accurate guess at how many people are going to enjoy the game you are going to make. This is why video game companies have to think ahead of their own time, and in this case, it seems as if they have found a soft spot and are going to do what it takes to get this game out asap. They are not telling us what it is exactly, because well, that's SE for ya. They want everything to be a surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    That's what I'd expect from any video game company, or companies in general. When making a product, you have to think about how much of it is going to be sold, and how much profit you could make. You can't just have an idea and go along with it, it has to be analyzed and tested, perhaps even surveyed, to get an idea of Need vs Cost.

    With a Video Game company, you have to take an accurate guess at how many people are going to enjoy the game you are going to make. This is why video game companies have to think ahead of their own time, and in this case, it seems as if they have found a soft spot and are going to do what it takes to get this game out asap. They are not telling us what it is exactly, because well, that's SE for ya. They want everything to be a surprise.
    problem is what MMO is going to be? it need to have a fanbase to start with or it wont even sell that much. I don't think it be other Final Fantasy online game that for sure.
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