SE making NEW MMO

[Belisaire]

Tanaka just took the blame for the Company there no need to blame him for the stockholder/CEO for wanting the game to be release in 2010.

Admittedly I'm only skimming some of the posts but I didn't see anyone talking about Tanaka really. But you illustrate the same worrisome point: we all know Wada is bad for SE and SE has only seen a net loss since he took charge as CEO and kinda pushed out the original Squaresoft dudes. That being said, he's still CEO, and unless something changes and he is forced out, he's going to be the CEO when this game is being developed.

I'm less worried about Tanaka being the developmental head as I am for Wada again being impulsive and demanding the game get shipped before its ready. Wada tries to take too many shortcuts.

But a huge problem with FFXIV was how they treated the beta testers. Honestly SE conducted themselves in just about the worst PR fashion imaginable as this game was being developed. There are videos upon videos of them saying junk like "The beta testers have been asking for these features but we believe that the game should take this course regardless" and just kinda ended up brushing off the beta testers with their overconfident nonsense. I do hope they fix the game and I think Yoshi-P could be the man to do it, but I am absolutely not feeling "Oh poor SE" when I look at the state of the game and the lost money, and then take a look back at those overconfident developer interviews earlier last year.

They want a WoW sized subscription base, $12.00 x 12months x 5,000,000users = $720,000,000.00 a year. The game would pay itself off roughly twice in a year.

WoW was a fluke. Blizzard knew they were making a fun game, they had *no idea* that it would blow up into what it is today. But the MMO market is oversaturated now; too many games and too many players with pre-existing loyalties to said games. Do we think there's another 5,000,000 users out there that are dying to get into the MMO market that currently aren't playing an MMO? I don't think so. This new game would need to kill WoW entirely to get anywhere near those numbers... and we all know that isn't going to happen.

[Ostia]

Admittedly I'm only skimming some of the posts but I didn't see anyone talking about Tanaka really. But you illustrate the same worrisome point: we all know Wada is bad for SE and SE has only seen a net loss since he took charge as CEO and kinda pushed out the original Squaresoft dudes. That being said, he's still CEO, and unless something changes and he is forced out, he's going to be the CEO when this game is being developed.

I'm less worried about Tanaka being the developmental head as I am for Wada again being impulsive and demanding the game get shipped before its ready. Wada tries to take too many shortcuts.

But a huge problem with FFXIV was how they treated the beta testers. Honestly SE conducted themselves in just about the worst PR fashion imaginable as this game was being developed. There are videos upon videos of them saying junk like "The beta testers have been asking for these features but we believe that the game should take this course regardless" and just kinda ended up brushing off the beta testers with their overconfident nonsense. I do hope they fix the game and I think Yoshi-P could be the man to do it, but I am absolutely not feeling "Oh poor SE" when I look at the state of the game and the lost money, and then take a look back at those overconfident developer interviews earlier last year.



WoW was a fluke. Blizzard knew they were making a fun game, they had *no idea* that it would blow up into what it is today. But the MMO market is oversaturated now; too many games and too many players with pre-existing loyalties to said games. Do we think there's another 5,000,000 users out there that are dying to get into the MMO market that currently aren't playing an MMO? I don't think so. This new game would need to kill WoW entirely to get anywhere near those numbers... and we all know that isn't going to happen.

To say Wow was a fluke, is stretching it a bit, sure they had no idea it would end up being the monster it is today, but they knew they had a solid game, that was nothing like the other games when it was released, and was heavily catering to a more cusual friendly while still keeping it's hardcore aspects, i think it was more of a "At the right time in the right place" kind of thing.

Anyways, more on topic, they should do a Mana series MMO, it's the serie's that can really hit a MMO theme, really nicely(Tho IMO DQ can do it better, they can market those slimes as pets etc etc)