Concerns about Content Patch 2.1

[roohan]

My only problem with 2.1 is that SE is adding FC housing instead of player housing first. This totally out of common sense to me. People would be alot happier if they could already buy their own houses. Content wise I see no problem. There is alot other stuff to do besides running endgame dungeons. People just limit themselves with doing only endgame dungeon content.

[Taemek]

My only problem with 2.1 is that SE is adding FC housing instead of player housing first. This totally out of common sense to me. People would be alot happier if they could already buy their own houses. Content wise I see no problem. There is alot other stuff to do besides running endgame dungeons. People just limit themselves with doing only endgame dungeon content.

People limit themselves to only running Dungeons, because that's all there is to do......

If you aren't running Coil you are running Dungeons
If you aren't running Dungeons you are levelling other Job roles via Fates
If you aren't levelling another Job role you are grinding Crafts & Gatherable Jobs
If you have done all the above OR done what of all the above you set out to achieve, you are bored.

None of the above requires you to experience anything new that you haven't already done, it merely supports a grind mentality which I am not complaining about per say myself. I am merely pointing out that the bail out bandwagon is beginning. I've lost players in my guild due to it, I know other Guild leaders having issues recruiting and losing players daily and I am seeing it in Fate groups in just general chat both in party and shout.

Again, this is not a simple casual vs. hardcore argument here, this covers both casual and hardcore gamers alike.

It is easy to live in a bubble and ignore the outside world where everything seems fine from your perspective, but that's not how everyone plays.

[Maxthunder]

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SE could do the following: make open world mobs viable meaning they pose a threat, add open world grind parties, open world hnm's that actually give something of use (unlike behemouth and odin currently), use grand company seals to buy hnm pop items (1 time use win or lose), bcnm's (again gc seals for the item or the um beastman if you can call them that will drop them). There is so much more that could be done with the open world to improve all players experiences.

[Gamex]

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SE could do the following: make open world mobs viable meaning they pose a threat, add open world grind parties, open world hnm's that actually give something of use (unlike behemouth and odin currently), use grand company seals to buy hnm pop items (1 time use win or lose), bcnm's (again gc seals for the item or the um beastman if you can call them that will drop them). There is so much more that could be done with the open world to improve all players experiences.

yeah i like this idea! was discussing this with a friend the other day. these systems alone gave you A LOT to do in 11. competition for NM's is also frustrating as hell but keeps palyers playing XD. love the idea for GC seals!!

[Rowan_Moonkeeper]

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SE could do the following: make open world mobs viable meaning they pose a threat, add open world grind parties, open world hnm's that actually give something of use (unlike behemouth and odin currently), use grand company seals to buy hnm pop items (1 time use win or lose), bcnm's (again gc seals for the item or the um beastman if you can call them that will drop them). There is so much more that could be done with the open world to improve all players experiences.

Yes but this idea contains suggestions of FF11 & for some absurd reason both Yoshi & a large % of this community's populace, wishes to exclude anything & everything from 11. Pay no attention now to the mobs with different names (Malboro, raptor, goblin etc) who resemble FF11 mobs. Or the skills/abilities (same name; different meanings) adapted from 11. Why even Allagan has an Aht Urgan feel to it.

But I like your idea.

[Asiaine]

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Your argument is not without merit, or put another way, there are only a few game activities
1 -- Crafting
2 -- Gathering
3 -- Leveling DPS
4 -- Leveling HPS
5 -- Leveling Tank
6 -- Primal Fights
7 -- Dungeon Runs

I separate 1 and 2 as there is 'just' enough difference between the two. All primal fights are similar in nature, as are all dungeon runs. The only other activity is 'Story', but that sadly can be completed and not repeated.

Once someone has done each of the 7 above a few times, there are no new game activities for them. And it is very easy to do each of the 7 a couple times.

In future, they will hopefully add some more activities.

[TrystWildkey]

My only problem with 2.1 is that SE is adding FC housing instead of player housing first. This totally out of common sense to me. People would be alot happier if they could already buy their own houses.

I can understand their decision on this. Instance servers had, and still have, a lot of stress due to so many people accessing them all of the time. Housing is also instanced. If they did individual housing first, they'd most likely have overloaded instance servers all of the time. With FC housing first, you're automatically limited with regard to the number of houses that can be purchased. This allows them to see the stress involved and adjust accordingly. The result (hopefully) will be that when player housing is introduced, they have instance servers that are more optimized and can handle the load.

[Taemek]

I can understand their decision on this. Instance servers had, and still have, a lot of stress due to so many people accessing them all of the time. Housing is also instanced. If they did individual housing first, they'd most likely have overloaded instance servers all of the time. With FC housing first, you're automatically limited with regard to the number of houses that can be purchased. This allows them to see the stress involved and adjust accordingly. The result (hopefully) will be that when player housing is introduced, they have instance servers that are more optimized and can handle the load.

In all seriousness, if their Tech devs don't know how to calculate the stress that will be applied to those servers for housing, then they need to get new Tech devs who are skilled enough to code correctly.....

Majority of the player base is not even in a FC and if they are, their Linkshells are the more common social stomping grounds here. So for most people, they want player housing, not FC housing.

They really should release some of the 2.1 content earlier so they can get both Player and FC Housing out in 2.1.

[Xystic]

In all seriousness, if their Tech devs don't know how to calculate the stress that will be applied to those servers for housing, then they need to get new Tech devs who are skilled enough to code correctly.....

Majority of the player base is not even in a FC and if they are, their Linkshells are the more common social stomping grounds here. So for most people, they want player housing, not FC housing.

They really should release some of the 2.1 content earlier so they can get both Player and FC Housing out in 2.1.

Because you feel that player housing should come before FC housing does not mean that most people are with you on this issue.

Other community members obviously do not agree with you on that point in this thread. You have members on both sides. Please keep that in mind before bulking the community with you.

[DeceptionsWrath]

Because you feel that player housing should come before FC housing does not mean that most people are with you on this issue.

Other community members obviously do not agree with you on that point in this thread. You have members on both sides. Please keep that in mind before bulking the community with you.

Well i certainly agree with him, i have no free company so free company housing doesn't concern me. So far this 2.1 update has only one thing that interests me, and that's the beauty salon. Hardly enough to keep someone subbed. I feel come January the 600,000+ subs will take a bit of a drop since some subbed for 3 months for the rewards, myself included. But i guess we'll just have to wait and see.