Monks very weak. Need rebalance

[Allyrion]

And to add, as I've said before, you can keep up your GL3 all the way through the last phase of Titan. You can also only get jailed 1/8th of the time, so I'd say that is a pretty good chance. On top of that you have 150-200 damage on AAs, your own buffs, and party buffs.

Also i said i used LogRep which now i cannot even make it work anymore. Believe what you want to believe but doing 100-200 DPS as a Monk and other classes as 150 is just being plain bad.

As Noctis said, the average dps for logrep doesn't actually show your average damage. Such as his showing 466 dps for his run when his dps is actually 240 dps. So, I think you have a skewed perspective of what average dps should be.

[MisakiSatomi]

As Noctis said, the average dps for logrep doesn't actually show your average damage. Such as his showing 466 dps for his run when his dps is actually 240 dps. So, I think you have a skewed perspective of what average dps should be.

Did you even read all three(including that quote) posts? And also he was actually doing 200-230 DPS, as what is already shown in the image.

And then people hitting 300 Dps on a dummy while Titan can be the same as a dummy.

Considering I can do 330 DPS on a dummy

You can also only get jailed 1/8th of the time, so I'd say that is a pretty good chance. On top of that you have 150-200 damage on AAs, crits, your own buffs, and party buffs.

I could sustain my GL all the way through the last phase.

Lastly, GL upkeep through bombs, landslides, and weight of the land is very easy.

[NoctisUmbra]

Did you even read all three(including that quote) posts? And also he was actually doing 200-230 DPS, as what is already shown in the image.

And then people hitting 300 Dps on a dummy while Titan can be the same as a dummy.

Actually:

120248 dmg / 499.6 s = 240.7 DPS as a MNK for Titan

I'm not saying we're in disagreement. Just making sure I was able to explain myself properly in that post.

[Allyrion]

Did you even read all three(including that quote) posts? And also he was actually doing 200-230 DPS, as what is already shown in the image.

And then people hitting 300 Dps on a dummy while Titan can be the same as a dummy.

What are you even talking about? I read everything. You said you did 300 dps on Titan which I don't believe. Either your parser is wrong or you read it wrong. Noctis showed how logrep shows the average dps wrongly.

Actually, to get a more accurate DPS value for the instance I'd have to first find the exact instance duration. I will do that using my damage and dps values on Titan himself, since the instance begins with the first hit on him and ends when he dies.

102061 dmg / 204.28 dps = 499.6 seconds. That comes out to just over 8 minutes or so, which is in line with what the parser labels the instance duration up top.

So to get my avg DPS for the instance I'd take my total damage for the instance, which is accurate, and divide by 499.6 seconds.

120248 dmg / 499.6 s = 240.7 DPS as a MNK for Titan. Considering I can do 330 DPS on a dummy, and the various GL3 drops and possibility of being jailed associated with Titan, this makes more sense.

P.S: I am in almost full ilvl90 gear (only belt and a ring slot are darklight, the rest melee/allagan) and I was in a merc party with more or less equivalently geared players of other jobs. I did, in fact, top that parse. Not by a landslide, but a reasonable amount.

Titan isn't a dummy, you drop GL and you can get jailed. Even great monks can't have dummy dps on him. Did you average your dps for the length of the fight? Averaging your damage over the length of the fight is a much more accurate way of telling your dps than just using the average of the two phases.

He got 240 dps and his gear better than yours, unless you did the lb (and maybe even then!) it's unlikely you hit 300 in earnest. Your parser would've most likely been inaccurate if it does say that.

[NoctisUmbra]

EDIT: nvm i need to learn to read...

[neoreturn]

EDIT: nvm i need to learn to read...

just let you know this parser is very wrong and lie to everyone. give misleading info.
if you saw for the gardua HM (another HM fight not favor monk). my dps was 561. I can tell the info is completely wrong.
Bard/BLM/Drg dps is about very similar for this fight. BLM can be very high if u count their aoe dps and same to drg and bard.
MNK isn't dps machine but do a good job only for a fight super long. Drg isn't behind MNK and they can be a super DPS too. MNK just a ok dps without any special skill.

[NoctisUmbra]

just let you know this parser is very wrong and lie to everyone. give misleading info.
if you saw for the gardua HM (another HM fight not favor monk). my dps was 561. I can tell the info is completely wrong.
Bard/BLM/Drg dps is about very similar for this fight. BLM can be very high if u count their aoe dps and same to drg and bard.
MNK isn't dps machine but do a good job only for a fight super long. Drg isn't behind MNK and they can be a super DPS too. MNK just a ok dps without any special skill.

You clearly didn't read my long post where I described in detail how to interpret LogRep's output.

Don't confuse your inability to interpret data for parser inaccuracy.

You're making yourself look bad by posting without reading and understanding others. Stop it.

I've concluded, time and time again, that you are one of the worst authorities on MNK and should simply cease to advise anybody regarding the job.

[neoreturn]

You clearly didn't read my long post where I described in detail how to interpret LogRep's output.

Don't confuse your inability to interpret data for parser inaccuracy.

You're making yourself look bad by posting without reading and understanding others. Stop it.

I've concluded, time and time again, that you are one of the worst authorities on MNK and should simply cease to advise anybody regarding the job.

that parser is very misleading by anyone read it first. yes, I am worst and you are the BEST monk. What's the point here to argue about who is good or not. We discuss if MNK dps is way over other job or not. clearly it is not the truth. some 300 dps on titan fight definitely is wrong info.

[MisakiSatomi]

just let you know this parser is very wrong and lie to everyone. give misleading info.
if you saw for the gardua HM (another HM fight not favor monk). my dps was 561. I can tell the info is completely wrong.

It says 165.84 for you actually. People in here doesn't know how to read, or is blind and also clearly doesn't know how to play Monk. This topic is garbage alright.

[EasymodeX]

It says 165.84 for you actually. People in here doesn't know how to read, or is blind and also clearly doesn't know how to play Monk. This topic is garbage alright.

Yep.

That's my main issue with logrep though -- it's accumulates DPS on multiple targets completely incorrectly. Extremely annoying, because you have to go back and guesstimate the actual fight length then divide the total damage. Don't know why the author of the parser summed the DPS that way. So silly.