Monks very weak. Need rebalance

[MisakiSatomi]

Only problem I've had is TP. 5 minutes and it's gone, probably just a few if you put ToD and Fracture in it.

[Allyrion]

Only problem I've had is TP. 5 minutes and it's gone, probably just a few if you put ToD and Fracture in it.

ToD TP isn't bad, you should always be able to use it.
Fracture I can understand.
You have problems even with Invigorate? If you're using ID, then that's your problem.
If you're not Invigorate should last you past 5 mins. You should be almost self sufficient with any sort of movement.
It's best not to Invigorate at 0. I do it at around 500, so the cooldown starts early but I don't overcap TP even if I have to move.

[Garnatian]

Nothing wrong with MNK, just needs a few QoL changes.

[DooDooBrown]

If a fight goes over 10 minutes nothing beats monks dmg -,- class is perfect as is.

[warren-ragnarok]

honestly, people that complain about mnk being weak need to learn to play the class and use the useful cross skills.

i parsed me and a few friends that know how to play their classes on tonberry king in WP

me on mnk with relic +1 and mostly full dl (only missing 3 accessories) i parsed 242
smn with relic +1 and full dl using garuda-egi and counting both pet and smn dps, parsed 240
drg with relic +1 and full dl, parsed 233

i havent found anyone else good enough on other classes to parse yet, and the test is simple, the person getting parsed goes full out on the boss, doesnt bother with adds at all and done WITHOUT limit break

that being said, either those players suck, or mnk is good

people need to stop complaining about the intended design of the class, yes there are "some" balance issues, but nothing so bad that it makes it so one dps is completely worthless (not talking tanks, thats a whole different board)

[NoctisUmbra]

If a fight goes over 10 minutes nothing beats monks dmg -,- class is perfect as is.

Shouldn't even take 2 minutes honestly. Given all cooldowns, can beat most DPS right off the bat and the rest under a minute.

[Kijimea]

honestly, people that complain about mnk being weak need to learn to play the class and use the useful cross skills.

i parsed me and a few friends that know how to play their classes on tonberry king in WP

me on mnk with relic +1 and mostly full dl (only missing 3 accessories) i parsed 242
smn with relic +1 and full dl using garuda-egi and counting both pet and smn dps, parsed 240
drg with relic +1 and full dl, parsed 233

i havent found anyone else good enough on other classes to parse yet, and the test is simple, the person getting parsed goes full out on the boss, doesnt bother with adds at all and done WITHOUT limit break

that being said, either those players suck, or mnk is good

people need to stop complaining about the intended design of the class, yes there are "some" balance issues, but nothing so bad that it makes it so one dps is completely worthless (not talking tanks, thats a whole different board)

Monk is fine as it is as u said, most monks just suck. And it doesnt matter if its WP, titan, ADS, twintania - monks dps is always very good even with dodging and losing GL3. Talking abt WP here are 2 results from me.

First, this is WP last boss with unmelded spiritbond equip (yes i know melding it gives more sb)

http://www7.pic-upload.de/10.11.13/shca8wd8f9c7.png

Second is WP last boss with my current gear, though unlucky due to not that much crits.

http://www7.pic-upload.de/10.11.13/uttlbqa5p1il.jpg

Yes you dnt need to move on that boss, still monks dps doesnt suck at all on fights like titan etc. Monks should stop complaining seriously.

[MisakiSatomi]

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I know all of this ofc...
2s GCD, you will run out of tp unless a bard sings Army's Paeon.

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I got around 300 dps in Titan HM with relic/dl, haven't tested again since.

[Kijimea]

I got around 300 dps in Titan HM with relic/dl, haven't tested again since.

Even though i know monk is a dps machine, THIS is hilarious 300dps on Titan(!) lol especially with DL ^^ You know you should check your parser sometimes. Like once i had 40k to dummy and 20k of it was DoT dmg which obviously is totally wrong. According to parser DPS numbers you will never ever get 300dps on Titan, definitly not with DL gear. Your dps in parser will drop everytime he jumps. I would even go as far that u wont do 300 dps on any static fight lasting more than 2 minutes.

[MisakiSatomi]

Even though i know monk is a dps machine, THIS is hilarious 300dps on Titan(!) lol especially with DL ^^ You know you should check your parser sometimes. Like once i had 40k to dummy and 20k of it was DoT dmg which obviously is totally wrong. According to parser DPS numbers you will never ever get 300dps on Titan, definitly not with DL gear. Your dps in parser will drop everytime he jumps. I would even go as far that u wont do 300 dps on any static fight lasting more than 2 minutes.

I got from 270-300, used LogRep and of course I know how to use a parser. I also just tried doing Titan seriously again and i could sustain my GL all the way through the last phase(1.99s GCD helps a ton alright) and 10 seconds in, GL3 cause PB. Unfortunately healer died, wipe. Will post results once i get a successful run.

Edit: I can't even get both parsers to work anymore. XIV-App goes full retard while i cannot "analyze" with LogRep, latest versions. Oh well.