Monks very weak. Need rebalance

[Allyrion]

For a 5 minute dummy single target DRG is nowhere near MNK. Nothing can beat an equivalently geared MNK on a dummy. Nothing. Unless you're going to be dumb and keep hitting the dummy after you run out of TP on MNK just to get to a 5 minute parse and suggest that is an accurate measure of their DPS... lol. BLM from what I can tell gets the closest to MNK DPS on a dummy parse. DRG isn't even close.

Summoners may or may not be better than us.
My impression is they are pretty close in single target to monks if not better. It's just very hard to find good ones.
I'd like to see where they stand.

[NoctisUmbra]

Summoners may or may not be better than us.
My impression is they are pretty close in single target to monks if not better. It's just very hard to find good ones.
I'd like to see where they stand.

Yeah... I typically try to avoid talking about SMN just because I never got to personally test the job thoroughly, what with its DPS being heavily based on DoTs, etc. That being said, SMN is definitely capable of very good DPS and I wouldn't be surprised if it rivaled MNK in the hands of a capable player.

[Syrus718]

Anyone who doubts A monks true DPS is either repeating what the first idiot who couldn't play monk said or just trolling. its rare that I get out DPS by any class on a single target as a monk even if I'm late to the party I still out Aggro so many on a regular basis and just watch health bars deplete

[Blooregard]

Yeah... I typically try to avoid talking about SMN just because I never got to personally test the job thoroughly, what with its DPS being heavily based on DoTs, etc. That being said, SMN is definitely capable of very good DPS and I wouldn't be surprised if it rivaled MNK in the hands of a capable player.

Isn't it kind of...completely f***ed if SMN can match our single target while decimating our AoE, having battle res, being able to offheal and being ranged with quick casts to boot?

That doesn't...sound very balanced. I could be missing something, which is why I'm asking you all as more experienced monks than I(only cleared Turn 2 so far and a lot of the dudes in this topic seem much further along.)

[Phai]

Monk is insane single target dps! If u dont know this just go back to nerf everyone post's an be a fluffy troll, end of story!

[Rochetm]

Why do people keep saying Mnk cant aoe... Have you not read your skills?

[Slirith]

Why do people keep saying Mnk cant aoe... Have you not read your skills?

Our AoE is garbage compared to BLM, SMN and BRD. Be better if AoD got rid of the silence and had a 10 potency DoT but that's just my opinion.

[NoctisUmbra]

I'm not very experienced with SMN ( I have it at 50 with a relic but haven't used it much in endgame) but I don't see how they have amazing AoE. BLM has amazing AoE, yes. All I can think of for SMN is Shadow Flare and Bane (which only spreads to 2 additional targets max iirc - maybe 3 additional).

I'm sure SMN is capable in AoE, but I'm not seeing how it can be considered to "decimate" our AOE.

Most people, it seems, underestimate MNK's AoE prowess. It isn't amaze-balls, but it's pretty potent.

Ultimately, I'm not too experienced with SMN DPS to make any reliable comment.

[pandabearcat]

I'm not very experienced with SMN ( I have it at 50 with a relic but haven't used it much in endgame) but I don't see how they have amazing AoE. BLM has amazing AoE, yes. All I can think of for SMN is Shadow Flare and Bane (which only spreads to 2 additional targets max iirc - maybe 3 additional).

Summoner matches BLM AoE dps if you OOM ourselves in about 20 seconds with Tri-disaster spam (or thunder Dotting), on 4 targets.

Summoner, and every class in the game, loses to BLM if the AoE phase lasts longer than 10-15 seconds.

Its stupid, and SE is dumb for capping bane for 1, and also for making AoEs so inefficient for everyone else.

Don't worry, BLM decimates EVERYONE for AoE.

[EasymodeX]

Capping bane is necessary else it would be a tad overpowered.