Eyes Open Now

[YanDere]

.

Ooooh *clapclap* you can beat a set of enemies! Then, why don't you solo a whole dungeon? You're so skilled!
And how did you calculate those 5 minutes you contribute? Now it's you that have to give me a break.
Just buff your party with your pet and heal, you'll contribute much more than killing enemies by yourself. And if you really contribute for 5 five minutes less, then your party must REALLY suck and make 80 minutes runs of Sastasha.
Black Mages CAN Sleep enemies.
White Mages CAN dps.
Tanks CAN dps.
But none of these actions are actually a great gain in speed of the runs.

[FinagleABagel]

Ooooh *clapclap* you can beat a set of enemies! Then, why don't you solo a whole dungeon? You're so skilled!
And how did you calculate those 5 minutes you contribute? Now it's you that have to give me a break.
Just buff your party with your pet and heal, you'll contribute much more than killing enemies by yourself. And if you really contribute for 5 five minutes less, then your party must REALLY suck and make 80 minutes runs of Sastasha.
Black Mages CAN Sleep enemies.
White Mages CAN dps.
Tanks CAN dps.
But none of these actions are actually a great gain in speed of the runs.

Super easy. I take a group in and pour on the DPS. I take the same group in and don't DPS. There's a difference.

The whole point is to take advantage of over gear. Most 50 dungeons aren't tuned for someone with full DL, which is quite easy to get.

[YanDere]

Super easy. I take a group in and pour on the DPS. I take the same group in and don't DPS. There's a difference.

The whole point is to take advantage of over gear. Most 50 dungeons aren't tuned for someone with full DL, which is quite easy to get.

Not everytime you run a dungeon you'll get the same time.
It can be 10-15 minutes less even in the same gear, with the same dps.
WHM or SCH dps time gain is NOTHING compared not to get hit by a Tomberry Stalker or not to die from a Mountain Buster.
I never dps, and I always make good runs in few minutes, and when I have nothing to do, I do nothing, I just keep watching at the tank and maybe I Stoneskin someone te better protect everyone. I suggest not to dps, if you want to do it then dps the shit out of your cane, I don't care.
I'm out of this post

[FinagleABagel]

Not everytime you run a dungeon you'll get the same time.
It can be 10-15 minutes less even in the same gear, with the same dps.
WHM or SCH dps time gain is NOTHING compared not to get hit by a Tomberry Stalker or not to die from a Mountain Buster.
I never dps, and I always make good runs in few minutes, and when I have nothing to do, I do nothing, I just keep watching at the tank and maybe I Stoneskin someone te better protect everyone. I suggest not to dps, if you want to do it then dps the shit out of your cane, I don't care.
I'm out of this post

Huh? The variance isn't anywhere as high as that. I don't run AKs that are slower than 30 minutes. Are you saying that I could be doing at 15 minutes?

Also, why is it a binary choice? I can DPS and save my tank from Mountain Buster.

You even admit you do nothing....no one should find that acceptable.

[Vasaan-Dragomir]

This back and forth is ridiculous. And browbeating others to make your point is a waste of time and shows arrogance and ignorance. I hardly have the downtime to dps because I'm constantly stuck with suicidal tanks who think I'm God and can heal them through anything, without any DL gear or relic +1. Working on obtaining those now. Because of this, I'm usually trained onto the tank without realizing he doesn't need healing, because it's a mental reflex to be wary. But when I feel safe enough to insta off a flare in boss or mob fights, I do. But I'm just skittish about change bars to dps even for a split second with the type of tanks I always manage to get.

[Whippet]

This back and forth is ridiculous. And browbeating others to make your point is a waste of time and shows arrogance and ignorance. I hardly have the downtime to dps because I'm constantly stuck with suicidal tanks who think I'm God and can heal them through anything, without any DL gear or relic +1. Working on obtaining those now. Because of this, I'm usually trained onto the tank without realizing he doesn't need healing, because it's a mental reflex to be wary. But when I feel safe enough to insta off a flare in boss or mob fights, I do. But I'm just skittish about change bars to dps even for a split second with the type of tanks I always manage to get.

Stop using duty finder

[Vasaan-Dragomir]

Stop using duty finder

And waste even more time shouting for groups? No thank you. Some of us can't play all day and shout repeatedly for groups in the emote infested Revenant's Toll. Besides, the way I see it, terrible tanks allow me to better learn how to play my class and perform in my role and get more comfortable with assisting with damage when I can: by allowing me to better assess a situation for allowed time to loose off a few DoTs or a swiftcasted flare. I'd rather people stop being so elitist and arrogant. It's a game for crying out loud. Let people learn their roles and class, get gear... and THEN show your ugly elitist colors. Being elitist in ak/wp situations is uber fail on your part. So pull the large sticks out your butts (by the way, that wasn't directed at the person I'm quoting) and enjoy something and be patient with people still learning. Diversity in player skill is a good thing and allows for player contribution.