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[Zormikal]

Started playing role of healer and have gotten to lvl 24 with groups made from use of duty.
I always thought healing would be easy job. Glad to say it is not.

After reading many posts here about healing and also do some dps. I decided to be the damage some but keep grp alive healer. Not easy to do but with practice im sure ill get it soon enough.

With duty you still meet ppl new to game so gear and knowledge not so good which makes role harder and with every grp comes a different challenge.

Point : Healing is not easy add dps even more challenging respect all healers in game !

[YanDere]

The problem is, most of people think the other jobs are easy.
So, as healer, most of the time you will party with people getting hit by aoes and not pulling enough aggro, then blaming you.
And this works for everyone.
Now, you are lv24, so I would suggest not to dps, it's useless in low level dungeons.
You don't need to dps even against Caduceus, maybe one of the 2 healers can dps a bit Titan, but I don't see why healers would dps.
You don't save time, so don't listen to who says healers should dps, just focus on healing and everything will be fine.
I'm really glad you could understand what healing is, most of Black Mages get to heal parties really bad because they don't understand that for a healer heal>damage.
Keep up with the good work and become a strong healer

[FinagleABagel]

You don't save time, so don't listen to who says healers should dps, just focus on healing and everything will be fine.
I'm really glad you could understand what healing is, most of Black Mages get to heal parties really bad because they don't understand that for a healer heal>damage.
Keep up with the good work and become a strong healer

I'm working real hard to not get belligerent with you. How much more data do you need to show that healers DO SIGNIFICANT DPS at end game? Granted, this guy is a lower level - the difference is going to be small and the total damage likely to be insignificant.

However, please - please - please stop spreading false information. Once you hit relic+DL you have the strongest DoTs in the game (sch). You have one of the best AoEs in the game (whm). When you run in a group like that and you aren't DPS'ing WP and AK you are doing something wrong. Period.

[Tanaya]

This is going to be another dps thread isn't it?

[FinagleABagel]

This is going to be another dps thread isn't it?

If it must be, sure. Some people need to get figuratively beaten over the head with data.

Also - reading comprehension.

[YanDere]

I'm working real hard to not get belligerent with you.

If you want a calm discussion, I can talk with you, but don't get angry because healers are healing and not dpsing.
Yes, I can spam Holy (which is the SECOND more powerful attack after Flare), but I don't have Umbral Ice to instantly recover all my MPs, I will waste 500 MP out of 4000, and this is not what I want.
I tried to use Holy, and the difference is INSIGNIFICANT. Stop saying that Holy is powerful, because it's really slow and expensive, and this makes it really weak.
When you run WP or AK, using 9999 Stone II or not using it at all, DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING, the run time will be 30 sec less if you did it well, but if you dps so well then you are NOT healing.
I'm a healer, I heal. I make a 20 min speedrun of AK even without dpsing.
So, if in a lv50 istance dpsing is useless, wht should I say about lv24 dps healing? Just, heal. You (and your party) need nothing more.

[FinagleABagel]

Holy crap. I contribute at least 5 minutes on every single AK run I'm in.

Ok, so when I can run off, kill a set of mobs (by myself), while healing our tank who is killing another set of mobs - I'm not saving time? Give me a freaking break. I doubt you've seen any top tier healer in action. Take advantage of the overgear you *will* experience by the time you get a few ilevel 90 items.

Even when I didn't have massive overgear, I was contributing - particularly on bosses. You can't just constantly pull more mobs because there is a limit on AoE effectiveness (ie. Bane hits +3 targets).

You've got the toolkit, to not use it is ridiculous.

Your argument amounts to a telling a BLM to never sleep because his job is a DPS. Most jobs have a dotted role line. A healer can tank or DPS. A DPS can deal damage or support. The only role I'd argue has a solid line, is the tank.

[ReviiLagoon]

Once you become a good healer, you realize that not every encounter is approached the same way. In AK / WP for example, I always sit in cleric stance and dps the entire dungeon and let my fairy do all the healing. In primals it's a mix of healing / dps, in Coil it's almost entirely healing, outside of a few select moments when you can dps. As a SCH my method of healing and using Aetherflow charges is completely different in Coil as it is everywhere else as well, simply because accuracy is a huge issue, so i never use energy drain, only lustrate / sacred soil

Healers need to adapt to a situation, learn the fights, know how to react and prepare for things to happen, and have incredibly good situational awareness. What do DPS have to do? Know a DPS rotation, dodge, and whatever mechanics the boss does. They could probably care less knowing what their other dps are doing, but with a healer, if you know what your other healer is doing or is going to do, it makes things go much smoother

[MXMoondoggie]

Not doing DPS when you have gaps is just plain lazy and pointless. What are you doing when nobody needs healing? Twiddling your thumbs? Sipping your coffee? I find it hilarious that you don't think Holy does significant DPS. Not counting crits with a Relic weapon you are doing 600-700 damage to each target plus stun on the first one. 3-4 Holy then recover mana and refresh heals and that's 2400-2800 damage not counting crits from just you. If you add damage from your DoT's in cleric stance it's even more significant damage. Ever DPS on Demon Wall? It's insanely fast if the healer does DPS before the bees appear. Or second boss in WP. Watch what Holy does to the adds XD. It's hilarious.

Why are you even worried about Mana? If you are smart enough you'll use Shroud or carry pots for that. Better yet having a Bard in the party makes it even easier to DPS. You are throwing excuses in to be lazy.

[YanDere]

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Ooooh *clapclap* you can beat a set of enemies! Then, why don't you solo a whole dungeon? You're so skilled!
And how did you calculate those 5 minutes you contribute? Now it's you that have to give me a break.
Just buff your party with your pet and heal, you'll contribute much more than killing enemies by yourself. And if you really contribute for 5 five minutes less, then your party must REALLY suck and make 80 minutes runs of Sastasha.
Black Mages CAN Sleep enemies.
White Mages CAN dps.
Tanks CAN dps.
But none of these actions are actually a great gain in speed of the runs.