XIV:ARR what SE could change to make the XI Playerbase more Happy

[Orsnoire]

There is no going back to the way FFXI was. That game is old and isn't going to gain hundreds of subs unless its rebuilt. That's what many of us expected with FFXIV.

Just like anyone else can make suggestions that are unique or come from another game, we can make suggestions for this game to be more like FFXI.. you don't have to like it, but as much as the world doesn't revolve around us FFXI lovers, it also doesn't revolve around you either.

To borrow from someone else in a similar thread:

So what you're saying, then is that even FF XI doesn't want to be FF XI anymore

Think about that.

[KittenStomper]

This isn't FFXI, it's FFXIV. Your dreaming if you think they will implement all of those things when most of those require a complete change in mechanics/code etc and would be FFXIV 3.0 and it would relaunch again.

I got a better idea to Make the FFXI player base happy.

1. Take the entire game of FFXI and update it more polygons, graphics, textures, and move it to directx11 (PS4/PC).
2. Create a new user interface entirely, inventory with bags etc
3. Take everything the windower.net app does and put it in the game (aside from bots/cheats)
4. Go back to making it take longer to level up
5. Call all the current players legacy players and put them on their own servers
6. Have more than one data center and in more than one geographical location

Basically, the same game, just up to dateified.

If they updated FFXI Graphics and put a huge new expantion making the game what it used to be, Id drop this atrocious WoW wannabe in 1 second.

[KittenStomper]

To borrow from someone else in a similar thread:



Think about that.

I don't think you understand.. 11 is a game that is a million years old.. as good as it is, its got old graphics and its old... But that doesnt mean a totally new game with the same concept with new graphics and some new ideas could not do just as well.

It's simply evolved to work for its smaller player base. That doesn't mean it doesn't want to be FFXI anymore.

[Velhart]

There is no going back to the way FFXI was. That game is old and isn't going to gain hundreds of subs unless its rebuilt. That's what many of us expected with FFXIV.

Just like anyone else can make suggestions that are unique or come from another game, we can make suggestions for this game to be more like FFXI.. you don't have to like it, but as much as the world doesn't revolve around us FFXI lovers, it also doesn't revolve around you either.

Well that isn't FFXIV's problem then, is it? Don't take it out on a game that is going on it's own direction.

Like I said, offering suggestions from FFXI isn't bad. I would love to see jobs like Corsair make it into the game with it's own FFXIV approach or see Chocobo Racing return. Offering suggestions which require tearing the wall down and building it back up will likely not get in, rather if it is an idea from FFXI or any other MMO.

[KittenStomper]

Well that isn't FFXIV's problem then, is it? Don't take it out on a game that is going on it's own direction.

Like I said, offering suggestions from FFXI isn't bad. I would love to see jobs like Corsair make it into the game with it's own FFXIV approach or see Chocobo Racing return. Offering suggestions which require tearing the wall down and building it back up will likely not get in, rather if it is an idea from FFXI or any other MMO.

Well with the exception of his request to change the battle system, the rest would be additions to the game rather then game breaking changes.

[Marael]

.) Let us have Gearswitch System like XI

This is the only thing you brought up that I really have a problem with. I HATED that about XI. I hated having to carry around 4-5 separate sets of gear for the same job just because it was expected of me to be able to maximize my potential. I'm completely fine with NEVER having to do that again in a MMO thank you very much. It was just a gigantic headache, obtaining all those different gearsets, setting them up to macros, working in all of my situational gear, and ability enhancing gear. It was a freaking nightmare. I have leveled up quite a few classes in XIV, and frankly, I just don't have the inventory space to hold more gearsets for each of them.

As far as I can tell, just about everything else you mentioned are things that people have already brought up numerous times before.

[Doo]

This is the only thing you brought up that I really have a problem with. I HATED that about XI. I hated having to carry around 4-5 separate sets of gear for the same job just because it was expected of me to be able to maximize my potential.

What if they made it easier on inventory and more friendly to use in general? Some players enjoy min/maxing and having more gear being useful is good imo.

[DwightParkman]

Is beyond my reasoning because a game should become another game to appeal players of a different game. Is too much asking FFXIV to be his own game ?

you realise the way the game is right now, is a carbon copy of WoW, right?

so what you just said is a complete and favorable contradiction.

[Orsnoire]

I don't think you understand.. 11 is a game that is a million years old.. as good as it is, its got old graphics and its old... But that doesnt mean a totally new game with the same concept with new graphics and some new ideas could not do just as well.

It's simply evolved to work for its smaller player base. That doesn't mean it doesn't want to be FFXI anymore.

That's your take on it.

It's FAR more likely that to even retain the small players left who actually enjoy the game, they had to evolve.

The game was dying before Abyssea ever released.

[Orsnoire]

you realise the way the game is right now, is a carbon copy of WoW, right?

so what you just said is a complete and favorable contradiction.

Frankly, DP, this is one of your less intelligent comments, and I have no idea why you keep saying it.

So, provide a detailed list of how this game is a carbon copy, including the following:

Races
Classes
Factions
Starting cities
Class abilities
Dungeons (be specific about specific dungeons)
Travel (include SPECIFIC travel nodes and how you reach them)
PvP
Quest chains
...and don't limit it to those points.

And yeah, if you can't provide a credible presentation on how those items have been carbon copied, it just proves that you're a FF XI white knight that's even more misguided than the FF XIV white knights.