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    Snow Peak
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    Midgardsormr
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Has anything changed in your calculations? In another thread, I found some neat builds, but I found none that matched yours that ranked #1. Yours is the same one I came up with just messing with XiV with scratch paper math. Anyway what do you think about them...
    Quote Originally Posted by Zigkid3 View Post
    If you prefer Det>Crit>SS, 60%>30%>10%:

    Boots: Either
    Head: Allagan
    Waist: Allagan
    Chest: Allagan
    Legs: Melee
    Gloves: Allagan
    Bracelet: Allagan of maiming
    Neck: Hero's
    Earrings: Allagan of striking
    Rings: Allagan of striking & maiming

    You'll get 476 accuracy (4 over), +134 crit, +81 det, +32 ss.
    This one is similar to Rank1, but was added up wrong, and Rank1 beats this build anyway....
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    Miona Ayashi
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by paradigmshift View Post
    This one is similar to Rank1, but was added up wrong, and Rank1 beats this build anyway....
    The build you just quoted was for someone using Relic+1 and weights 60%>30%>10%, Det>crit>SS
    That's for a completely different scenario from Aeoliana's set in their original post. Their scenario is for someone using Allagan Baghnakhs weapon, and they're using different weights of Crit 1> Det .5> SS ? as mentioned in post #30

    But, in that scenario of using Allagan Baghnakhs and having weights of Crit>Det>SS by 1>.5>0 (im using 0 as the weight of SS to imply that it's irrelevant, as I'm guessing Aeoliana did too)

    Though i'm not sure what accuracy cap they are using. im assuming its 472.

    in this case, my excel solver spits out:
    Weapon: Allagan Baghnakhs
    Boots: Either, they're the same
    Head: Melee
    Waist: Allagan
    Chest: Allagan
    Legs: Melee
    Gloves: Allagan
    Bracelet: Allagan of maiming
    Neck: Allagan of maiming
    Earrings: Hero's
    Rings: Allagan of striking & maiming

    Overall you'll have: Accuracy 473 (1 over), Crit +166, Det +84, SS +32

    Aeoliana recommends:
    Weapon - Allagan Baghnakhs
    Head - Melee Circlet
    Chest - Allagan Cuirass of Striking
    Hands - Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
    Waist - Allagan Tassets of Striking
    Legs - Melee Gaskins
    Feet - Allagan Sollerets of Striking
    Neck - Allagan Choker of Maiming
    Ear - Allagan Earrings of Maiming
    Wrist - Allagan Bracelets of Maiming
    Ring - Allagan Ring of Maiming
    Ring - Allagan Ring of Striking

    They got the same exact set I did, using the same exact pieces to also get overall you'll have: Accuracy 473 (1 over), Crit +166, Det +84, SS +32



    So with the scenario Allagan Baghnakhs and Crit>Det>SS weighted as 1>.5>0, we got the same results.
    So I have confirmed that given this scenario, then this is the best set.

    However, if you would like to try sets with different scenarios (like what if you used Relic+1 for the weapon instead and you only need 94 accuracy instead of 131 acc to reach a 472 cap. Or what if you have a different cap you want to use? Or what if you want use different weights, maybe you want to try Det>Crit>SS instead, or maybe you want to go Crit>Det>SS as well but would like to have their weights of relative importance to be different (yes this effects how much the solver will go out of its way to grab one stat over another)? Then here is my excel sheet:

    To view it you can look at:
    https://docs.google.com/a/csu.fuller...tLTMtV0E#gid=0

    To download it, and make adjustments of your own you can download it here:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/oeecuwfyic...14monkgear.xls

    To make adjustments of your own, here are the steps:
    1. choose your minimum accuracy requirement. at the bottom right you will see "accuracy YY >= XX" to change this, change the XX cell number on the right of the >=. To find what value of accuracy you need from equipment take your cap (472) and subract your base accuracy (341), you'll need 131 accuracy. if you are using Relic+1 which gives you 37 accuracy then you'll only need 94 from equipment instead.

    2. Alter your weights to your content. On the right side under "relative importance" are how much you want to weigh each stat based on how important it should be. and no, it doesn't have to equal 100% it doesn't have to be something like 30/60/10, for example you could use 1/.5/0 if you want.

    3. Click on the green box number, the total objective.

    4. Go to the Data tab > then on the right click on "Solver" it has a question mark icon

    5. Click solve. The solver will spit out the 0's and 1's in blue to tell you which pieces to use. It will also show you the sum of stats for the equipment, and multply the stats by the weights to show you what the total objective is which is the optimal point.



    If you don't have the solver plugin on your excel here's how you can get it:
    1. on excel go to file.
    2. select options
    3. select add-ins
    4. select solver addin-in
    5. click Go...

    you can also find the other monk set thread here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...r-A-Discussion
    I had to make a couple updates to my excel sheet, but now that those things have been fixed, especially now that i've compared it to Aeoliana's set following the same scenario and came up with the same answer, i can now say for certain that it is correct.
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    Last edited by Zigkid3; 11-08-2013 at 08:53 AM.