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  1. #21
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    EasymodeX's Avatar
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    Add food. whatthe10ch
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  2. #22
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    Miona Ayashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    @Zigkid3. Your spreadsheet here is missing both the Allagan Bracelet of Maiming and the Allagan Choker of Striking, and the assumption of using the Relic+1 seems a little strange. I altered the spreadsheet to take the missing accessories into account and allowed the solver to choose a weapon too. Here is the calculation with your weights of .7 for Det, .29 for Crit, and .01 for Skill Speed.
    Thanks, I did not know that i was missing Allagan Bracelet of Maiming and Allagan Choker of Striking.

    I'm adding those in now. I will update the drop box and the google doc as soon as I do.

    I usually run the solve twice, once for assuming relic+1 and the other for assuming using the allagan weapon, because one gives accuracy and the other does not, so you'll need more or less accuracy from equipment depending. Most people will be running relic+1 until they beat turn 5 and get the allagan weapon drop. But I run both for both scenarios.

    After running the solver adding those two missing pieces, assuming you are using the Allagan weapon and having weights of Det .7>Crit .2>SS .1 I have confirmed that you got it right, it is:
    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Weapon: Allagan
    Boots: Whatever
    Head: Allagan
    Waist: Allagan
    Chest: Melee
    Legs: Melee
    Gloves: Melee
    Wrist: Hero's of Slaying
    Neck: Hero's of Slaying
    Ear: Allagan of Maiming
    Ring: Allagan of Striking and Maiming
    except earrings is not allagan, the earrings are actually Hero's i think you looked at the wrong line, but everything else is the same that i got with putting accuracy >= 131 and det .7>crit .2> ss .1

    I also ran it again with the same weights but only needing 94 accuracy if you're using relic+1:

    Weapon: Relic+1
    Boots: Either
    Head: Allagan
    Waist: Allagan
    Chest:Allagan
    Legs: Melee
    Gloves:Melee
    Wrist: Hero's
    Neck: Allagan of striking
    Earrings: Hero's
    Rings: Allagan of maiming & Hero's of slaying
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    Last edited by Zigkid3; 11-07-2013 at 07:25 AM.

  3. #23
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    Okay I have updated the links to the dropbox download and the google spreadsheet doc.

    I added rows for Allagan Bracelet of Maiming and Allagan Choker of Striking.

    I will also edit all previous posts that have a combination list to make sure the solver takes those two pieces into account.

    edit: all previous posts with combinations and numbers have been editted to reflect the changes.
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    Last edited by Zigkid3; 11-07-2013 at 07:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Toying with different weights on this is silly. To shaft Skill Speed just a little less, here's one with .7 Det, .2 Crit, and .1 Skill Speed.

    Weapon: Allagan
    Boots: Whatever
    Head: Allagan
    Waist: Allagan
    Chest: Melee
    Legs: Melee
    Gloves: Melee
    Wrist: Hero's of Slaying
    Neck: Hero's of Slaying
    Ear: Allagan of Maiming
    Ring: Allagan of Striking and Maiming

    This gives 110 Crit, 103 Determination, 60 Skill Speed, and 133 Accuracy. 305 Determination sounds like it would be awesome :P

    I wants... Thank you Zig, and Donjo.
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  5. #25
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    So if I have weapon +1, myth helm, myth chest, allagan earring of maiming, allagan ring of striking, hq gryphon pants/boots/ring, DL the rest, what should I save my next myth tomes for?

    Seems like it comes to pants, necklace, or wrist maybe? Gloves? I have the worst luck and haven't gotten any Turn 1 or 2 drops =/
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    Last edited by Riot55; 11-07-2013 at 10:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riot55 View Post
    So if I have weapon +1, myth helm, myth chest, allagan earring of maiming, hq gryphon pants/boots/ring, DL the rest, what should I save my next myth tomes for?

    Seems like it comes to pants, necklace, or wrist maybe? Gloves? I have the worst luck and haven't gotten any Turn 1 or 2 drops =/
    For someone using Relic+1, youll have 341 acc base and +37 from the weapon, this means you need an additional 94 accuracy from equipment to meet the 472 accuracy requirement for the soft cap. For the weights, lets go 60%>30%>10%, these weights are arbitrary depending on how much you value one stat over the other.

    If you prefer Crit>Det>SS, 60%>30%>10%:

    Boots: Either
    Head: Melee
    Waist: Allagan
    Chest: Allagan
    Legs: Allagan
    Gloves: Allagan
    Bracelets: Allagan of maiming
    Neck: Allagan Choker of maiming
    Earrings: Hero's Earings of slaying
    Rings: Allagan of striking & maiming

    You'll get 476 accuracy (4 over), +153 crit, +49 det, +56 ss.

    If you prefer Det>Crit>SS, 60%>30%>10%:

    Boots: Either
    Head: Allagan
    Waist: Allagan
    Chest: Allagan
    Legs: Melee
    Gloves: Allagan
    Bracelet: Allagan of maiming
    Neck: Hero's
    Earrings: Allagan of striking
    Rings: Allagan of striking & maiming

    You'll get 476 accuracy (4 over), +134 crit, +81 det, +32 ss.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Add food. whatthe10ch
    What food are monks using? I have run into a problem finding food that isn't loaded with ACC or SS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    What food are monks using? I have run into a problem finding food that isn't loaded with ACC or SS.
    My two picks. I'm not sure what else is better.
    http://xivdb.com/?item/4693/Button-Mushroom-Saute or if your gear set needs more acc via food http://xivdb.com/?item/4694/Buttons-in-a-Blanket
    or if you want crit http://xivdb.com/?item/4655/Deviled-Eggs
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  9. #29
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    I don't get it, what's the point of using Allagan during the early phase of collecting it? I'm pretty much sure that you can't get all of those listed in just 1 or 2 turns. But the fact that you still need to hit the cap accuracy even before getting Allagans remains the same.
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    Very interesting post but please, this is AF2:

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