The Black Mage Rotations

[Shadowzanon]

The moment I have had that happen to me a few times i made sure not to spam transpose but wait for flare to go off to then use it. I would agree that the f3 problem is latency related as it does not occur often, kinda the same as my flare showing up as being slow casted only to go off way before the cast bar is done.

[PsychologyPhD]

I have had rare issues with me tossing out flare, transpose n it seems the transpose didnt go through leaving me hanging there. Also i have had something similar to what you have expereinced, after i cast the 2nd ice 2, i wait a lil bit to make sure i get the fast cast fire 3, it fires off then my flare will either take its time, not fire at all, or i get a long cast bar and it fires half way through completely taking me off guard. XD This does not happen to me all the time but it does occasionally happen where it botches my rotation.

F3 bug seems to be latency related to me, but I haven't been able to recreate it on purpose. It's very rare for me. Maybe once in 8-10 WP speedruns. The Transpose issue I think you can avoid by not spamming it. I've only had that happen once or twice ever, and it was when I was mashing Transpose. I think what happens is you mash it, Transpose goes off, then the Flare applies damage and resets you to AF3. And then you're boned.

The moment I have had that happen to me a few times i made sure not to spam transpose but wait for flare to go off to then use it. I would agree that the f3 problem is latency related as it does not occur often, kinda the same as my flare showing up as being slow casted only to go off way before the cast bar is done.

Ah okay, so it seems my underline problem is me spamming my abilities way too much. I notice this when my f3 casts at normal speed when I spam it while my final b2 is still casting for ui3 stack. I'll slow down my button mashing to see if that improves my results any. I would like to thank the both of you for your input!

[Shadowzanon]

The servers just cannot take black mages awesomeness. It tends to faint.

[Macho]

Ever since Sundays update I've noticed on my F3 to F1..if I cast at the wrong time the cast bar stops mid ways and resets and then I get a slow cast for Fire1. Anyone notice that? I have to specifically not hit my hotbar too early or too late now.

Edit: This is for taking advantage of the fast cast for UI to AF...

[Psychosamm]

I just got my BLM to 50 and i'd like some feedback on my rotation, what i should change and what i should keep the same.
Currently i'm using
I start with Swiftcast> F3> F1 until around 300-500MP> B3> T3> F3 and repeat. I'm not sure when i should incorporate Flare into my rotation so any insight on that would be awesome.
I'd like suggestions with reasons why, not simply what you use.

[Awake]

I just got my BLM to 50 and i'd like some feedback on my rotation, what i should change and what i should keep the same.
Currently i'm using
I start with Swiftcast> F3> F1 until around 300-500MP> B3> T3> F3 and repeat. I'm not sure when i should incorporate Flare into my rotation so any insight on that would be awesome.
I'd like suggestions with reasons why, not simply what you use.

Hint: It's written in this thread, dont be lazy and read it.

[Psychosamm]

Hint: It's written in this post, dont be lazy and read it.

Hint: Don't be a jerk.
I have read through this thread and everyone seems to do different things, i want suggestions on my rotation, not a whole new one. Specifically i want to know the best way to incorporate Flare since it uses all your MP, because there has to be a better way than simply using transpose.

[Allyrion]

Hint: Don't be a jerk.
I have read through this thread and everyone seems to do different things, i want suggestions on my rotation, not a whole new one. Specifically i want to know the best way to incorporate Flare since it uses all your MP, because there has to be a better way than simply using transpose.

Flare is used rotationally for AoE. The OP's rotation is the best, and it's not terribly different from yours either.
To use Flare single target, you utilize Convert. Flare when you would at low mana (when you would otherwise use Blizzard III)-->Convert ---> Blizz III
I usually fit in a Fire I after convert, then Blizz III. Flare keeps you at Astral 3 as well, so your rotation should not be disrupted.

Outside of using Convert, it's not practical to use Flare for single target.

Thunder II is better than Thunder III, since it's cast time is shorter. The half second extra Thunder III takes is not worth the damage or extra duration, since you may have to overwrite it anyway if you don't get much procs during you fire phase. You can use Thunder III for Thundercloud procs. The tooltip is apparently not very accurate.

The OP's AoE rotation is quite amazing, honestly. You get a reduced flare cast time if you do it right after Fire III. This is where Flare really shines.

[Shadowzanon]

I just got my BLM to 50 and i'd like some feedback on my rotation, what i should change and what i should keep the same.
Currently i'm using
I start with Swiftcast> F3> F1 until around 300-500MP> B3> T3> F3 and repeat. I'm not sure when i should incorporate Flare into my rotation so any insight on that would be awesome.
I'd like suggestions with reasons why, not simply what you use.

I would advise to get into the habit of casting thunder 2 first then hardcast fire 3 save swiftcast. dishing out dmg to fast will pull aggro off tanks before they have a chance to even build any this will become more apparent as you get better gear. starting of slow usually ensures you wont rip aggro away, unless the stars align and you pull a few crits in a row. also if you just hit 50 work on getting quelling strikes, as it will help seal the deal on not pulling bosses away from the tank unless they really mess up and you happen to crit like no tommorow.

[Nabian]

regarding the AoE rotation.

First off thanks to those who put in the work to identify this rotation. My question is...what is the minimum number of mobs needed for this rotation to be superior to single target damage. During speed runs and turn 4 your often facing 5-6+ mobs at a time from my understanding.

I main pld and have been messing around with blm for fun. I'm still trying to get the rotation mastered so I've been using DF for practice. Trash pulls in most DF runs only have 3 mobs, so in this instance would it be better to single target the mobs down or use the AoE rotation until one dies then single target the remaining two.

I'm sorry i this has been mentioned earlier. I've been slowly reading the entire thread over the past 2-3 days and I don't recall reading a specific number.

Thanks in advance for any answers to this question.