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    Maoilios Tavoularis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    Thedevilsjester... you really need to understand what multiplayer is in the aspect of rpgs. It does mean grouping.
    You really need to understand the definition of multiplayer. Nowhere (except in the heads of some MMO "groupers") is it defined as grouping. As a quick test, how many multiplayer games can you name off the top of your head that do not include groups or grouping? I can think of thirty easily.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    I highly suggest you really read thewhat you wrote and think hard on why people are being negative to you, or soloist in general.
    Oh its simple psychology, most everyone feels that the way they do things, or like things done, is, or should be, "the" way that everyone should do them. It just so happens that groupers are more...vocal than soloers on forums, but as the progress of MMORPG's towards favoring soloers shows, they speak more with their wallets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    You can still group up but perfer to solo. Just do not always say no. It makes you look anti-social.
    I am anti-social why? I form guilds / linkshells / whatever. I talk with friends, chat while I play, meet new people, participate in discussions on forums (hell I even helped one friend I met in an MMO move IRL!) etc... I just simply choose not to group with them. Quite the anti-socialist arn't I?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    But do not join a group based mmo with a long background of group play style games and flat out demand for a soloable mmo.
    Wow. Flat out demand? Really? Did you read any of my posts? ANY of them? Or did you simply get past the first line, assume you knew what I was posting, and supplied your canned reply? Do I ever, in any of my posts, request that anything be changed, made different, or cater to one group or another? Any? Let alone "flat out demand" as you say? Really you lost all credibility with that.

    I assume your "background" comment is refering to previous FF games? With the exception of FFXI (and in a way CC), every FF game has been a completely solo game with no real options for "group" play. So the reality of this is that its quite the opposite of what you say. Now if you count one person being able to control multiple characters as group play (a stretch by any measurement), well then playing with my FFXI or FFXIV companion, or pet, should count as well? I wonder if I am being anti-social when I dismiss my pet for a bit...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    If you want a soloable mmo to play I know several. Infact The new star wars game is supposed to be soloable.
    First, let me address that I never said I wanted a "soloable mmo", you just picked that one out of thin air, but I'll humor you. Will Star Wars be available on the PS3, or use a controller based input? (Two of the biggest reasons I play FFXI/FFXIV) No? Its not much of a replacement then.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    MMo in most cased have solo/group leveling but most high end content is group based. If you want to just solo, then don't do the group based stuff.
    Ok...? Really, read my posts, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    And the reson people do not group in a soloable mmo is those players think it is a hassle to find people. That it is better off time wise to just do stuff by yourself.
    I couldnt disagree more. Even the original poster of that soloable mmo comment was talking about asking ppl to join a party in a soloable mmo and being rejected, in this case "being able to find a party" doesn't even enter into it.

    That being said, trying to find a group in an MMORPG, even a party based one, is often a chore, so I wouldn't blame people for soloing for this reason alone, though its hardly the only reason we solo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    Your stance is you do not want to group with people at all. That is against the mindset of mmorpg.
    No it is not. It may be against a "groupers" mindset, but there is nothing, other than your opinion, albeit shared by many (but I argue that its even the majority), that says its against the mindset of MMORPG, simply what you feel an MMORPG should be. The only thing that an MMO is, without question, is Massively Multiplayer and Online (and the term Massively is subjective).
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    Last edited by thedevilsjester; 05-26-2011 at 03:41 PM.