Need for Non-Hardcore Content

[allluckys]

Why don't you just do coil what are you guys scared of?

[Dliver]

Why don't you just do coil what are you guys scared of?

Lag. Pre-mades only. And it's the equivalent of a hard-mode raid.

Even WoW has recognized the predominance of casual raids with LFR and Flex. Square copied a lot from WoW and they should copy the more recent innovations too.

As for PvP, I think it's self-evident how cost-efficient PvP content is. Design a map and voila, endless content vs constant effort for new PvE grind.

[DivineAyumi]

Lag. Pre-mades only. And it's the equivalent of a hard-mode raid.

Even WoW has recognized the predominance of casual raids with LFR and Flex. Square copied a lot from WoW and they should copy the more recent innovations too.

As for PvP, I think it's self-evident how cost-efficient PvP content is. Design a map and voila, endless content vs constant effort for new PvE grind.

LMAO. Do you have any idea how hard it is to develop a balanced PVP system? - not to mention a FUN PVP system...

[Dliver]

LMAO. Do you have any idea how hard it is to develop a balanced PVP system? - not to mention a FUN PVP system...

It's less hard than constantly developing new raids or dungeons, for sure.

If PvP is what kills this game, it'll be a first in PvE centric game history. If you honestly came to FF14 for PvP then you're in the wrong game. If you knew anything about the game prior to your arrival you'd have known it wasn't a focus to get out first but in 2.1.

Or fine, even if you hate PvP, then there still needs to be a broader PvE end game, along the lines of Flex raids.

[allluckys]

Guys are pugging 1-4 on my server 4 and 5 being the ones that a static would be needed but even then given enough time people will be pugging turn 5

[zdub303]

Lag. Pre-mades only. And it's the equivalent of a hard-mode raid.

All this sounds like is complaints that you have to put just a little bit of effort into something... Seriously, coil turns 1 and 2 aren't that hard, every week I've done coil we've pugged a few peeps, it's really not that bad of a dungeon, at all.