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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    Parses are far from 100% accurate and for what it's worth, I've already used the faulty mechanism to gain my results by testing both rotations. Therefore...


    I'm satisfied with what I've found, unless I was specifically shown otherwise. Which I have not been up to now.


    I agree.
    I fail to understand how parsing is inaccurate.

    All of your information from FFXIV is time-stamped, this includes damage.

    A parser takes that damage, including dots and spits out a total dps.

    There is no data, unless the parser cannot add, that can be mis-construed.

    Even if dot damage was cycled differently, your DPS wouldn't change because it's still over a time period.

    Ultimately, I fail to see how a parser cannot add.

    I'm also not calling you names, simply saying that until you put forth evidence -- There is no fact to base this theory on...You know, a lot like UFOs are real...Just sayin.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongNu View Post
    I've already done my tests and found my proof. I am more than satisfied in my findings. You, on the other hand have yet to disprove me which only adds to my satisfaction in what I have found.
    I feel like Donald Rumsfeld is playing this character.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masked View Post
    I fail to understand how parsing is inaccurate.
    The parsers themselves aren't 100% accurate in terms of recording information. This isn't speculation, this is actual fact that can be tested in game right now. Take a friend and parse yourselves against a boss, a dummy, a mob or whatever and you'll see for yourself. Some of the results shown in comparison to my other field testers have been wild and inaccurate to what was shown on my parser. We used the same parser with wildly different inconsistent results. For what it's worth, however, I have used this faulty mechanism to gauge my DPS using the rotation I presented and the other(s) in the other thread and this one has proved more beneficial for me (Higher DPS) in every situation and circumstance. Be it 30s, 3m, 7m fights.
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  4. #84
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    Ok so I just wanna know once and for all... what proof would be enough to satisfy you? Prove has already been put forth and you guys are saying there is no proof... What proof do you want, what boss is standard for determining what DPS is valid? Or is it a dummy? If so, how long of a parse do you need? It just seems no matter what proof is put forth some people just don't want to believe the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought View Post
    I feel like Donald Rumsfeld is playing this character.
    its what all trolls shoot for
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  6. #86
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    Hum, if you want, I can punch the hard rotation into my sim and give you raw potency readouts to see if its better than Easy's rotation (which is currently winning).
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Hum, if you want, I can punch the hard rotation into my sim and give you raw potency readouts to see if its better than Easy's rotation (which is currently winning).
    This disqualifies parsing results then, doesn't it?
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    Ok so I just wanna know once and for all... what proof would be enough to satisfy you? Prove has already been put forth and you guys are saying there is no proof... What proof do you want, what boss is standard for determining what DPS is valid? Or is it a dummy? If so, how long of a parse do you need? It just seems no matter what proof is put forth some people just don't want to believe the truth.
    You guys are in here talking about the equivalent of someone batting .500 a week into the season and you're wondering why no one's impressed. It's absurd.
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  9. #89
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    Okay now that my ban is lifted, here is what we've learned:

    Schematics(tm): The abstract potency of a specific rotation.
    Evidence(tm): Any random set of numbers that can be used to draw any conclusion.
    Proof(tm): Whatever it is, it isn't valid probably.

    I'll quit making fun of you for one second since this thread has gone on for so long and no one has still pointed out the major problem with your post. I tried to cut it off earlier with my initial thread but I think you missed the point because I poked fun at you. I'll try again so that anyone who is looking at this thread can learn from your intentional troll.

    You show a training dummy as a video of your rotation. You show an unspecified 4man dungeon parse of a mystery encounter as your "evidence and proof." You do not state any of your stats used in the parse. You then deny the objective use of potency weights and ratings as inapplicable.

    Here's your challenge. Parse coil 1-4 tonight. Post your results.
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  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Hum, if you want, I can punch the hard rotation into my sim and give you raw potency readouts to see if its better than Easy's rotation (which is currently winning).
    Why are you even bothering with this troll?


    As a sidenote, logrep is telling me I parsed for 699.3 DPS on Wanderer's Palace bosses.

    I guess I win.
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