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    Quote Originally Posted by Awake View Post
    ff14 coomunity is probably even worse.Nowdays all you see in shouts is "LF relic+1 DPS WP/AK SR"I mean common relic+1 for a WP speed run?! to save what 2 minutes of the timer??Countless have been the times i've joined such "elite" partys to find out they didnt had a clue on how to even do a SR so we ended up taking more than 20min to finish it......The amount of elitism in this game is breath taking.
    My last titan hm run was a nice example of a player who needed help.He was a tank and wasnt even that bad geared with garuda weapon and some af2 items but he couldnt manage to hold aggro from them WHMs so after our 3rd wipe ppl started to moan and wanted to replace him.So i gave him a few advices on how to do a proper rotation and voila he was alrdy tanking like he should be.He then thanked me and said he was also very nervous since we were all geared in full dl with our relics, relics+1 and i just told him to relax and enjoy the game.
    The people shouting you only need a relic for a speed run are not the real elitists. You can't just shout for people with relics in this game because relic does not = geared. Anyone in FFXI with a relic more than likely was very geared. Not the case in this game. Anyone has and can get a relic these days. Whenever I shout for my speed runs, I say you need EXPERIENCE and be OP/geared! Don't even bother /tell'ing me if you are not geared/experienced/overpowered. I don't even mention relic in my shout because there are so many idiots with relics out there that don't know thier job/rotation. They should have a relic though, but that goes without saying. It doesn't even need to be said in my shout. As far as a tank in Titan goes, I tanked it fine as PLD in all armor greens, gc 50 weapon, with DPS blue accessories. However, I had really good healers backing me up, and I was very strict in my shout just like for my speed runs. If you are the leader of your group, and you have the aura of someone who knows what they're doing with people supporting you, no one will question your gear or authority. Titan is not just a gear check (moreso for healers/DPS), it's a "Are you smart enough to avoid plumes and death" check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    Whenever I shout for my speed runs, I say you need EXPERIENCE and be OP/geared! Don't even bother /tell'ing me if you are not geared/experienced/overpowered.
    As far as a tank in Titan goes, I tanked it fine as PLD in all armor greens, gc 50 weapon, with DPS blue accessories.
    TL;DR i was carried on Titan but now im such a pro i dont want to waste time with people that is undergeared as i was.

    GC weapon on Titan... /point /laugh

    Sorry but you deserved it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maqaqa View Post
    TL;DR i was carried on Titan but now im such a pro i dont want to waste time with people that is undergeared as i was.

    GC weapon on Titan... /point /laugh

    Sorry but you deserved it
    I had to survive and know my tank rotation for my mitigation CDs; it was not a carry persay. I also did it as drg and survived the whole thing. Don't scoff at things you don't understand. I know every aspect of the fight behind and infront of Titan. I would love to see you main tank it with less than 5k hp and 2 healers than come back to me. And all but one healer was pug'd.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    I find it hilarious when someone is shouting/demanding geared players when they are in AK gear and have a GC weapon.
    That is because I don't die during titan, at least not until it's called a wipe. And having two very geared healers basically evens out having bad gear as a tank. I am the leader, and I can do whatever I want with my group. I guaranteed a win and got the win for the 6 others that needed it. Even the most geared people will die or not win because they do not know how to fight Titan or be selective in making PUGs. And I made a rule that if you die like 3 times in a row or just plain unexperienced, you are booted; the rules are made clear before joining. It was always a DPS or a bad healer that had to be replaced. Got it done in 3 attempts after weeding out the one bad person that died first two attempts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    I would love to see you main tank it with less than 5k hp and 2 healers than come back to me.
    Dude, i tanked that shit on a WAR, as a new - non legacy - player on his first job; but this didnt give me the rights to be an elitist ass.

    I have both WAR and PLD at 50 and you know what? Tanking Titan on PLD = easy mode, no matter your HP and your gear.

    And lets not pretend Titan is difficult on us tank, we use cooldowns, we take 4 steps to avoid explosions and thats it: not a big deal if the healers are doing their job.

    Now go hide behind your shield, mr. high standards, average players arent entitled to brag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
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    I find it hilarious when someone is shouting/demanding geared players when they are in AK gear and have a GC weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    I tanked Titan. Need OP people for speed runs.
    Can you chill out a bit? I realize being a leader means you have responsibilities, but leading also means setting an example for the people who are with you. If you only worry about what you perceive to be your group's best interests, you'll damage your community, and your own group in the long run.

    Setting up an artificial barrier to entry does nothing for the community. Think of what you're creating. You're giving people essentially 4 choices.

    1. I am not experienced and cannot join your group.
    2. I am not experienced and will lie to join your group
    3. I am experienced and will not join your group because I don't want to be pressured in case I accidentally make a mistake
    4. I am experienced and will join your group, but your shout makes it so I am judged by a random standard (how OP I am)

    Yes, if something is really hard (which speed runs are really not btw) set up expectations, make people accountable, but to things you can measure. What is OP? Can I eat it?

    I wanted to make a snarky comment about how Titan HM for tanks is just a gear check, and they just have to sit there in 1 spot while maybe popping a cd every MB if they feel like it... But ultimately probably against the better interest of the thread
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    Last edited by HoroBoro; 11-05-2013 at 10:19 AM.

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