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    Player EmSix's Avatar
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    Em Six
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Vanya +1 is better. It isn't the attributes you get crafted gear for, it's the side stats like Crit, Det, etc.
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    Vergil Savickas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by EmSix View Post
    Vanya +1 is better. It isn't the attributes you get crafted gear for, it's the side stats like Crit, Det, etc.
    I just don't see how it's better. I'm trying to find a way to justify the purchase. you meld materia for side stats but it just doesn't seem to be better than DL for the cost even with the forbidden meld.
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    Overlord Pofo
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyteStones View Post
    I just don't see how it's better. I'm trying to find a way to justify the purchase. you meld materia for side stats but it just doesn't seem to be better than DL for the cost even with the forbidden meld.
    Vanya is and always will be superior to Darklight.

    Darklight Robe of casting: VIT32 /INT33/ Accuracy43/ Spell Speed30
    Vanya Robe of Casting (with the Proper meld): VIT+20/INT+20/Accuracy+27/Determination+13 --- Meld with Crit +27 / Determination +5 (Total 18 DET)
    Vanya Hat of Casting (With the Proper Melds): VIT +12/INT+12/Crit +11/Determination+11 --- Meld with Accuracy +16 / Crit +5

    Vanya Combo Totals: VIT+32/INT+32/Accuracy+43/Determination +29/Critical Hit Rate +43

    For the loss of a single INT, you gain 29 Determination and 43 Critical Hit rate. That 29 DET far overpowers a single INT, let alone the crit rate is the main sell point alone even if it didn't have the Determination on it.
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    Vergil Savickas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pofo View Post
    Vanya is and always will be superior to Darklight.

    Darklight Robe of casting: VIT32 /INT33/ Accuracy43/ Spell Speed30
    Vanya Robe of Casting (with the Proper meld): VIT+20/INT+20/Accuracy+27/Determination+13 --- Meld with Crit +27 / Determination +5 (Total 18 DET)
    Vanya Hat of Casting (With the Proper Melds): VIT +12/INT+12/Crit +11/Determination+11 --- Meld with Accuracy +16 / Crit +5

    Vanya Combo Totals: VIT+32/INT+32/Accuracy+43/Determination +29/Critical Hit Rate +43

    For the loss of a single INT, you gain 29 Determination and 43 Critical Hit rate. That 29 DET far overpowers a single INT, let alone the crit rate is the main sell point alone even if it didn't have the Determination on it.
    So far this is the most useful post. Thank you very much, this helps.
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    Overlord Pofo
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyteStones View Post
    So far this is the most useful post. Thank you very much, this helps.
    Np, after the head and the body the hands are the next biggest upgrade. Since the darklight Legs, Feet and Waist have crit rate on them already, I'd just stick with those DL pieces until Allagan. Realistically, you can meld any piece of vanya to exceed it's DL counterpart, but not all of them are as extreme of a difference as the Head/Body/Hands. The waist I think is 2 DET and 12 Acc over the Darklight, and the Legs you shouldn't even bother. The main reason for that is because it needs 18 Potash and 9 Animal fat to complete, and no matter how you spin it, Allagan will always be better. Since items bind to you and can no longer be sold, those 5 meld 5mil+ in value pants have the sad destiny of a Fire materia III. It's just not worth it.
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    Horatius Cocles
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50
    The base stats STR DEX etc for Vanya HQ and DL are exactly the same (even def and magic def are the same), attaching materia can give you DL with +25 Crit attack on one piece.
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