Vanya Gear Set...Not As Good As I thought?

[KyteStones]

So I have been doing a little research on the overly popular Vanya gear set and from my conclusions that I have drawn from it..The DL set is still superior no matter what you want to craft on the set? BLM here by the way. Seeing HQ is pretty much capped on the stat increases, other than the fact you can dye the set, I see no real reason to spend 3 to 4 mil (totaling market prices for all HQ on Ragnarok server) with materia if the DL is better.

Also, is there a guide somewhere (I've looked everywhere) that tells you max stats on the item and what materia can be melded to it? Pressing my luck and hoping it all goes through and that I didn't waste materia/gil is a little annoying.

Thoughts?

[EmSix]

Vanya +1 is better. It isn't the attributes you get crafted gear for, it's the side stats like Crit, Det, etc.

[KyteStones]

Vanya +1 is better. It isn't the attributes you get crafted gear for, it's the side stats like Crit, Det, etc.

I just don't see how it's better. I'm trying to find a way to justify the purchase. you meld materia for side stats but it just doesn't seem to be better than DL for the cost even with the forbidden meld.

[Pofo]

I just don't see how it's better. I'm trying to find a way to justify the purchase. you meld materia for side stats but it just doesn't seem to be better than DL for the cost even with the forbidden meld.

Vanya is and always will be superior to Darklight.

Darklight Robe of casting: VIT32 /INT33/ Accuracy43/ Spell Speed30
Vanya Robe of Casting (with the Proper meld): VIT+20/INT+20/Accuracy+27/Determination+13 --- Meld with Crit +27 / Determination +5 (Total 18 DET)
Vanya Hat of Casting (With the Proper Melds): VIT +12/INT+12/Crit +11/Determination+11 --- Meld with Accuracy +16 / Crit +5

Vanya Combo Totals: VIT+32/INT+32/Accuracy+43/Determination +29/Critical Hit Rate +43

For the loss of a single INT, you gain 29 Determination and 43 Critical Hit rate. That 29 DET far overpowers a single INT, let alone the crit rate is the main sell point alone even if it didn't have the Determination on it.

[KyteStones]

Vanya is and always will be superior to Darklight.

Darklight Robe of casting: VIT32 /INT33/ Accuracy43/ Spell Speed30
Vanya Robe of Casting (with the Proper meld): VIT+20/INT+20/Accuracy+27/Determination+13 --- Meld with Crit +27 / Determination +5 (Total 18 DET)
Vanya Hat of Casting (With the Proper Melds): VIT +12/INT+12/Crit +11/Determination+11 --- Meld with Accuracy +16 / Crit +5

Vanya Combo Totals: VIT+32/INT+32/Accuracy+43/Determination +29/Critical Hit Rate +43

For the loss of a single INT, you gain 29 Determination and 43 Critical Hit rate. That 29 DET far overpowers a single INT, let alone the crit rate is the main sell point alone even if it didn't have the Determination on it.

So far this is the most useful post. Thank you very much, this helps.

[Pofo]

So far this is the most useful post. Thank you very much, this helps.

Np, after the head and the body the hands are the next biggest upgrade. Since the darklight Legs, Feet and Waist have crit rate on them already, I'd just stick with those DL pieces until Allagan. Realistically, you can meld any piece of vanya to exceed it's DL counterpart, but not all of them are as extreme of a difference as the Head/Body/Hands. The waist I think is 2 DET and 12 Acc over the Darklight, and the Legs you shouldn't even bother. The main reason for that is because it needs 18 Potash and 9 Animal fat to complete, and no matter how you spin it, Allagan will always be better. Since items bind to you and can no longer be sold, those 5 meld 5mil+ in value pants have the sad destiny of a Fire materia III. It's just not worth it.

[Condottiero]

The base stats STR DEX etc for Vanya HQ and DL are exactly the same (even def and magic def are the same), attaching materia can give you DL with +25 Crit attack on one piece.

[Condottiero]

On my server, the mats for Vanya run for 30-35k a piece, 9 of them is 270-300k. Having multiple crafts at lvl 50 makes Vanya + 1 easily crafted. To get the materia, spirit bond lvl 55 gear and convert it. Sell it or use it and you've made your own Vanya for 350k. It's significantly better than DL with materia attached and it makes you different than everyone else. You can also sell it back for waay more than what you spent crafting it when you get Allagan or Myth gear. Then you can get multiple relics with the tomes you saved too. It's a very logical investment to make.
I lvled BSM from 24 to 40 yesterday and will get 50 today to be able to HQ vanya silk without failure.

[KyteStones]

On my server, the mats for Vanya run for 30-35k a piece, 9 of them is 270-300k. Having multiple crafts at lvl 50 makes Vanya + 1 easily crafted. To get the materia, spirit bond lvl 55 gear and convert it. Sell it or use it and you've made your own Vanya for 350k. It's significantly better than DL with materia attached and it makes you different than everyone else. You can also sell it back for waay more than what you spent crafting it when you get Allagan or Myth gear. Then you can get multiple relics with the tomes you saved too.It's a very logical investment to make.
I lvled BSM from 24 to 40 yesterday and will get 50 today to be able to HQ vanya silk without failure.

Honestly, I'm not big on crafting. I never have been in MMOs. So I make my money buy leve quests. I'm not loaded by any means. 3 mil gil is nothing in this game at this point with repair bills, teleportation fees, etc. I'f I'm going to spend the money, I was also trying to find a guide of what can be melded to it and what's a waste. As stated before, I don't want to buy the materia, see that the stat is already max, and have wasted a meld.

I don't see how you can't see that an overmelded HQ Vanya set has better stats.

I'm looking for advice/help. This post was none of that and i regret wasting the 3 seconds to read your reply.

[Bufkus]

Honestly, I'm not big on crafting. I never have been in MMOs. So I make my money buy leve quests. I'm not loaded by any means. 3 mil gil is nothing in this game at this point with repair bills, teleportation fees, etc. I'f I'm going to spend the money, I was also trying to find a guide of what can be melded to it and what's a waste. As stated before, I don't want to buy the materia, see that the stat is already max, and have wasted a meld.

There are guides out there for what the stat caps are, if that's all you're concerned about. Also, you must have some mad money making skills to be able to get 3 million gil without any crafting/gathering...