This is going viral in the MMO community and everyone should read it

[Victor]

A little melodramatic, if you ask me

[CianaIezuborn]

From the little info that was actually in that post, it sounded to me like the vast majority of people were unwilling to help him. I totally believe it, I quit WoW after my 30 day trial was up for that very same reason.

This is why I'm wondering on the ilevel 496 thing. If he really was full raid geared AND as bad at the game as he seems to think he is, then he probably wore out any good graces/offers of help while getting carried to a full set of raid gear.

I'm okay with people that don't pick up things as fast as others in MMOs. But if it takes you twice as long to pick up something as the other guy, then understand that you're going to have to spend twice as long on it trying to pick it up.

[KimimiAvesta]

This is why I'm wondering on the ilevel 496 thing. If he really was full raid geared AND as bad at the game as he seems to think he is, then he probably wore out any good graces/offers of help while getting carried to a full set of raid gear.

It's explained further into the topic that Korean WoW has different raid/ilevel adjustments/conditions to English WoW.

[TeganLaron]

Why should he be allowed to bring down every team that he joins? People these days are so selfish. They think they should be allowed to do anything the want regardless of how it effects others. When you join a team, you have a responsibility to that team. If you let the team down, of course they're not going to invite you back. If you keep going back anyways, of course they're going to talk trash. That guy couldn't improve no matter what he tried, but he refused to stop joining teams. He was the problem, not them.

His lack of ability is not worthy of being berated though. Neither did I state everyone had to play with him. You and others say that people who aren't good at the game should just quit. Well why should you be allowed to make that call? If he still wants to play he is entitled to.

[Kuvu]

This is why I'm wondering on the ilevel 496 thing. If he really was full raid geared AND as bad at the game as he seems to think he is, then he probably wore out any good graces/offers of help while getting carried to a full set of raid gear.

I'm okay with people that don't pick up things as fast as others in MMOs. But if it takes you twice as long to pick up something as the other guy, then understand that you're going to have to spend twice as long on it trying to pick it up.

We see this kind of stuff every day and its disheartening how other players treat others. Just because a run is easier if we have full DL or relic doesn't mean its required and a lot of people are being pushed to the way side. Even in DF people are criticizing others when they have no right to. If they wanted the elite group they should have not used DF and just found a pug run.

The sad thing that i have seen from reading these replies is that the majority of people posting here don't even get it or they don't even care.

[Xystic]

Well after reading the thread it is a common thing now and days in MMOs. I see it quite often here as well and will be honest I've had quite a few instances in which people just left my party because it was my first time in the dungeon.

This is why it is important to find a social group of players that you enjoy playing with. It makes the experience x10 better. In this case, this gentlemen found a hardcore player who was willing to try to lend a hand.

I remember helping new players into WoW when I was a young hardcore raider and now they run some of the top tier raiding guilds. Now....sadly I'm the new player after sitting out for 6 years lol. Sadly raiding just isn't my thing anymore. However, these players welcome my scrubbiness any day even after leaving the game for 6 years but I decided to come to FF14 . Doing good deeds can go quite a ways.

[Molly_Millions]

From what little I know of the mechanics in WoW, it sounded like he had the wrong stats on his gear for the class he was playing. To me, that's an indicator that he didn't get much if any help gearing his character. If he didn't get any help gearing his character, he certainly wouldn't have had much help with skill rotations.

[CianaIezuborn]

It's explained further into the topic that Korean WoW has different raid/ilevel adjustments/conditions to English WoW.

Have a link somewhere? I couldn't find it while skimming.

We see this kind of stuff every day and its disheartening how other players treat others. Just because a run is easier if we have full DL or relic doesn't mean its required and a lot of people are being pushed to the way side. Even in DF people are criticizing others when they have no right to. If they wanted the elite group they should have not used DF and just found a pug run.

The sad thing that i have seen from reading these replies is that the majority of people posting here don't even get it or they don't even care.

I'm not saying he's undergeared, I'm saying he's OVERGEARED. I checked out the ilevel on raid gear for MoP expansion and the ilevel IS 496 for the gear that DROPS from the entry level raid(EoTS?). So he's already run the entry raids so many times that he is in FULL raid gear, all while admittedly doing the dps of a wet noodle. That is where I'm implying his ostracizing has come from, he's already taken advantage of every pug raid organizer on his server.

Chances are this isn't the first person that's tried to help him, he is either someone that is unable or unwilling to improve. My money is on unwilling to put in the time and effort to improve, having encountered similar folks in the past.

[Zappo]

His lack of ability is not worthy of being berated though. Neither did I state everyone had to play with him. You and others say that people who aren't good at the game should just quit. Well why should you be allowed to make that call? If he still wants to play he is entitled to.

He's entitled to play by himself. Joining a party means other people's needs/wants need to be considered. When you log into a game and play solo, it's all about you. When you join a party, it's all about the team. If you're not a good team player, they're not obligated to invite you back. As for being berated, he seemed to be ok with it. Folks who can't take a little trash talk need to grow a thicker skin. As I mentioned earlier, folks these days don't know what real bullying is. If you're getting bullied and you could have stopped it by simply logging out, half the blame falls squarely on you.

[Billie21]

I dunno, really.
I tried to imagine how can you reach lvl cap, gear up and STILL have no idea how to play your class.
As in, completely NO idea.
[...]the "outcast" never bothered to get better, and never considered the game as something worth putting effort into, up until it came back to bite him in the worst way possible.

On the first MMO I played, a friend of mine once told me a story:

He once encountered a player ingame, that was like 2/3 to max level, and had NO IDEA how to use some basic features and had very poor gear. Reason? As a noob, he was quietly killing mobs for XP, and suddenly exclaimed: "Up! level 10!". Sadly, the one person who was there was a PK, lvl 10 is when you get PvP ON, he was one shot, and never dared aproaching other players again, since his only experience was agression.

I know it sounds very silly said like that, and this game was very different from FFXIV, it also was many, many years ago, but it was just an example of how someone can be Very Bad at a MMO without necessarily being unconcerned or unwilling to improve, for other reasons.
I can easily imagine nowadays how a bad player who only ran into mute/bad groups in DF (god knows there are plenty), who never had anyone giving him pointers, and had enough bad luck to end up later on in groups where people just quit because he was a noob or badly geared, may be a very bad player. You might reply that he could always go search the internet to read guides upon guides on how to run this or that dungeon and how to play his class, but not everyone wants to do hours homework studies before simply playing a game.
I'm playing devil's advocate, I'm not saying it's the general situation, just giving different examples.