This is going viral in the MMO community and everyone should read it

[Zappo]

When I was a kid, bullies would beat kids up and take their lunch money. There was no getting around it. If they cornered you, you fought or you layed down and took a beating. Either way, there was a beating coming. Online bullying is a joke. If people are being mean to you, log out. It's that simple. It's hard to feel bad for someone who keeps willingly going back for more. The guy is the linked article in the OP could have quit WoW and spent his time elsewhere, but he chose to stay. Whatever happened after that was on him.

[CianaIezuborn]

Your point lost any validity when you started with the opening line of "Your employer." This isn't a job, it's a game. No one is getting paid, could lose their job, their house, their life. It's a game.

I hope you read the rest of it, the situation could easily be applied to "Your FC". As far as the "isn't a job, it's a game" I agree 100%. At a job, often I have to do other peoples work for them due to whatever reason, and I deal with it because I'm getting paid. In a game, if I'm stuck in a situation where I have to do other peoples work for them, I don't have to deal with it because I'm not getting paid. I can take my ball and go somewhere else.

Also, anyone play WoW during Mists era? If so, when he says ilevel 496, does he mean his average gear level? Cause if that's true I really don't have much sympathy for him if I'm understanding MoP drops at all. It seems to imply that he had been knowingly getting carried by raids to a full set of raid gear 4-5 months after MoP release, though like I said I may be misunderstanding MoP drops.

The whole thing reeks of lack of personal responsibility to me. I've experienced that smell in the past running raid groups, and I tend to trust my gut on that one. It's usually not worth trying to clean them up when there's alternatives in the raiding pool, because even if you scrub them clean next patch/content update they start smelling all over again.

[TeganLaron]

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Why should he quit doing something he enjoys because others don't want him there?

[IvoryFox]

This just in, a channel 5 exclusive! People are generally asshats!

In real life
Online
In video games

You can get warm and fuzzy or have a sad over this e-sensationalization but that will never change.
'Till the next time a random article or post comes along that makes people care for a week before slipping into old habits.

[Molly_Millions]

Your quote of me is something you typed; therefor it's not a quote.

At no point did I say people aren't responsible.

I said the Devs have a responsibility too, and claiming it's all on "the community" is flawed thinking.

Design influences behaviour.

The character limit influenced me to paraphrase your post. See what I did there? You're pushing all of the responsibility of your own behavior onto the devs when in fact you're the only one who is in control of your actions.

[Amayasu]

Where did I say it wasn't the developer's problem? Oh right I didn't. All I said was this is not a job, which you still insist it is. It's not an office, it's not a firehouse, a police station, a bakery. None of it. It is a game

But I can see you won't accept that, so fine.

My favourite part though was "elitist morons." Like yourself you mean? People who think they are better than others because they have more free time than others. People who look down their noses at others for no logical reason (such as being a child.)

However, it's time for me to stop feeing this hungry troll, that's why my mummy halved my pocket money before. Anyway, didn't you sign some sort of register so you can't talk to people my age? I'd scram before Chris Hansen arrives.

Love you!

You're take things far too literally. I'm well aware this isn't a Job. Switch work place for anything you like; the point stands. Take a sports team; the same basic principles apply.

I seem to have offended you with the "Mummy" comment - I apologise, genuinely. It was not my intent cause real offense.

As an aside; so far you've accused me of being many things, all of them wrong. There's no need to be hostile; that's how things like the original situation start.

We're not going to get any further with this discussion, it seems we both agree it's a shared responsibility and leave it at that.

[Savagelf]

I like see this subject talk about how we make different for each gaming expreince

first realise we part the problem how improve

I like ask SE stand up toxcity on all it games. if SE will fight this
then square Enix first company realise this is problem and tried correct it be a trend setting as company
I think as players remove are self as well

check what you say before post make sure it not hurtful or rude or mean.

as player we must set an example for each and for new players
tried remember let battle this comminuty
as gm they have ability sit someone be to toxcity sit that person in special jail of theirs "say look your bully another players i like think of this for few days in the gm prison."
allow players ability report people this thing too

as Dev post messege remind players when loggin everyone person on other side computer is a person screen when come server name and stuff

[Zappo]

Why should he quit doing something he enjoys because others don't want him there?

Why should he be allowed to bring down every team that he joins? People these days are so selfish. They think they should be allowed to do anything the want regardless of how it effects others. When you join a team, you have a responsibility to that team. If you let the team down, of course they're not going to invite you back. If you keep going back anyways, of course they're going to talk trash. That guy couldn't improve no matter what he tried, but he refused to stop joining teams. He was the problem, not them.

[Amayasu]

The character limit influenced me to paraphrase your post. See what I did there? You're pushing all of the responsibility of your own behavior onto the devs when in fact you're the only one who is in control of your actions.

You can get around the character limit by editing your post (so write your post, copy it, post a few words and then edit->paste to get the whole thing across).

Secondly, stating that the developers have a responsibility does not mean I as a player do not.

I said very clearly that the developers are part of the community and through design can influence behaviour. It goes without saying that individuals have to be responsible for themselves, that isn't true now; that's always been true and this situation still exists.

Yes; we as players have a responsibility to be nice and helpful.

The designers of social games have the responsibility to design social systems that support that.

[Molly_Millions]

Why should he be allowed to bring down every team that he joins? People these days are so selfish. They think they should be allowed to do anything the want regardless of how it effects others. When you join a team, you have a responsibility to that team. If you let the team down, of course they're not going to invite you back. If you keep going back anyways, of course they're going to talk trash. That guy couldn't improve no matter what he tried, but he refused to stop joining teams. He was the problem, not them.

From the little info that was actually in that post, it sounded to me like the vast majority of people were unwilling to help him. I totally believe it, I quit WoW after my 30 day trial was up back in the day for that very same reason. I see the very same thing in the community here. The difference is here that I'm ahead of the power curve due to my time spent in 1.0. I run my LS/FC as the anti-thesis to such elitist groups and have been quite successful in doing so.