Make FFXIV more like FFXI and less like WoW

[Gogatsu390]

Furthermore, why is it somehow not ok to have another ffxi styled game? There are already tons of wow-wannabe games out, so what exactly is not ok about 2 - 3 ffxi alternatives?

I never said it wasn't ok. Though I can see how it came off as though that's what I meant. I did get a little snide towards the end. I personally do not want to see another FFXI grind fest. I can of course respect your reasons as to why you don't play FFXI now, and like I said I would like to see the difficulty increased in FFXIV, it is a bit too easy even for the increasingly casual player. I guess after seeing this type of thread pop up so often I want people to give a better reason then "for nostalgia" as to why things should be added from FFXI. If I come of as ranting I'm sorry I'm not trying to be. I am honestly just trying to understand peoples reasoning.

[busta]

Because they don't make money.

Except they do.

[ruzoko]

I never said it wasn't ok. Though I can see how it came off as though that's what I meant. I did get a little snide towards the end. I personally do not want to see another FFXI grind fest. I can of course respect your reasons as to why you don't play FFXI now, and like I said I would like to see the difficulty increased in FFXIV, it is a bit too easy even for the increasingly casual player. I guess after seeing this type of thread pop up so often I want people to give a better reason then "for nostalgia" as to why things should be added from FFXI. If I come of as ranting I'm sorry I'm not trying to be. I am honestly just trying to understand peoples reasoning.

tis alright as said ur quote to just go play ffxi again has been seen a lot so gets tiring as well lol

[ruzoko]

Because they don't make money.

hard to say they don't when only 1 FFXI style game exists. FFXI and its STILL going after what....10 yrs+?

[Andrien]

again ur looking at it through a narrow view, never did I say bring those back and again the launch of ffxiv ARR is a 2nd re-launch they learned from previous mistakes

again? I wasn't addressing this to you. You're speaking out of context. I do acknowledged that they've learned from their mistakes.

[ruzoko]

ahh my mistake helps to have quote or show who you are speakin to

[Redemption]

I never said it wasn't ok. Though I can see how it came off as though that's what I meant. I did get a little snide towards the end. I personally do not want to see another FFXI grind fest. I can of course respect your reasons as to why you don't play FFXI now, and like I said I would like to see the difficulty increased in FFXIV, it is a bit too easy even for the increasingly casual player. I guess after seeing this type of thread pop up so often I want people to give a better reason then "for nostalgia" as to why things should be added from FFXI. If I come of as ranting I'm sorry I'm not trying to be. I am honestly just trying to understand peoples reasoning.

It was more a general comment towards the community (I edited it in as an after thought). Like you, I respect that ffxi was not perfect for everyone and am perfectly fine with your style of play. I knew coming into this game it would not be FFXI, still I would like it to be the natural next best thing you know? I just want to see 'more' or at least a spirit of ffxi here and I know I have to curb my expectations or decide to pack up and leave if what is here is not for me. Mostly im in this thread defending ffxi as a good game and some ideas as good ideas even if they need to be tweaked a bit.

@orson_dara Actually they do make money, FFXI is considered as SE's most successful product (as stated by SE themselves)

[Gogatsu390]

tis alright as said ur quote to just go play ffxi again has been seen a lot so gets tiring as well lol

Yeah I didn't mean for it to come out as me saying they should go play it. I was genuinely curious as to why they didn't just play FFXI. I know it's an over stated comment but most of the time it's used to lash out. I was trying to ask an actual question. ^_^

@ Redemption

That makes sense and I see where you are coming from. I do hold FFXI in a special part of my memories, as it was my first MMO and through all the bad there were plenty of goods that I certainly do miss. Thanks for giving a real answer.

[ruzoko]

@ Gogatsu390 mhm, I personally am upset with the state of ffxi as redemption said its not as it once was, its a mere shell of its former glory, the lively zones where u saw partys everywhere, random people running around, fishing sitting together etc the game felt quite alive every zone had a purpose, may it of been lvln quests items NMS missions etc, it all had a point to be there which on ffxiv I don't get that same feeling, it feels....just as it is, a game ): that passion and heart that was put into ffxi I just don't see it in ffxiv atm its a decent game imo but has much to be desired.

[busta]

Yeah I didn't mean for it to come out as me saying they should go play it. I was genuinely curious as to why they didn't just play FFXI. I know it's an over stated comment but most of the time it's used to lash out. I was trying to ask an actual question. ^_^

The reason we don't play FFXI is because FFXI is no longer FFXI. It's no longer the same game it was from 2002-2009. SE killed it for us. We hoped FFXIV would cater to us a little bit. But it didn't. But XIV is a fun game for the most part. I don't have any serious complaints. But we can't go back to FFXI. It's like going back to your hometown and finding that all of your child play places have been bulldozed and replaced with crappy restaurants, shopping malls and lawyer's offices.