Make FFXIV more like FFXI and less like WoW

[Vandark]

This again? FFXI sucked, let's move past it.

FFXI was awesome and so was 1.0 screw this WoW clone BS, I'm tired of WoW players wrecking our Final Fantasy MMO

TO the OP, look your fighting a battle that we are unfortunately out numbered by now, I made a topic in the beta phases with the exact same title that hit massive numbers and reached the front page but the problem here is the real fans have mostly been pushed away or ignored and SE's loyalty has been migrated towards new fans who enjoy bad titles like FF13 and now this extreamly tamed FF14...

It's a huge shame they didn't just add more to 1.0 and improve on that model it had alot more potential than ARR, it's an even bigger shame they didn't just revamp FFXI.

There interest was money and they succeeded in that, so bravo to them but unfortunately what we are left with is no longer a Final Fantasy MMO in forms of it's over all game play depth and what we are left with is a WoW clone with the Final Fantasy name slabbed onto it. The new gen don't know the difference so to them it's like the best thing in the world but to others like myself who have been around since the very start of FFMMO-Game play this... this is a huge disappointment and continues to be.

I deeply miss having a true Final Fantasy MMO game to play, ARR has lost all the amazing things Final Fantasy had to offer us. Mostly I feel sorry for new comers who will never get to experience the real adventure of Final Fantasy.

[LiadansWhisper]

You suck, FFXI was awesome and so was 1.0 screw this WoW clone BS, I'm tired of WoW players wrecking our Final Fantasy MMO

So...1.0 being awesome is why it tanked, right?

TO the OP, look your fighting a battle that we are unfortunately out numbered by now, I made a topic in the beta phases with the exact same title that hit massive numbers and reached the front page but the problem here is the real fans have mostly been pushed away or ignored and SE's loyalty has been migrated towards new fans who enjoy bad titles like FF13 and now this extreamly tamed FF14...

I actually don't like FFXIII. Never had any desire to play it. But I do like FFXIV. The way it is.

It's a huge shame they didn't just add more to 1.0 and improve on that model it had alot more potential than ARR, it's an even bigger shame they didn't just revamp FFXI.

You can still play FFXI. I mean, if you think it's that much better. Nothing's stopping you.

They didn't just "add more to 1.0" because the game completely tanked. Whereas FFXIV has actually put SE in the black.

Can't imagine why that might be.

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The reason people liked and played Final Fantasy as an MMO and not just as a console game was because Final Fantasy as an MMO was created completely different to other MMO's from the inside out, the fact that it's become just another generic same old same old MMO has taken away most of it's potential as an original franchise.

So all the people currently playing the game are just...crazy? Stupid? Not as cool as you?

Gamers like me who played and enjoyed both FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 played them and loved them because they had something different to offer us than other games, now that Final Fantasy ARR doesn't really offer much different to other MMO's it's kind of lost a huge chunk of it's over all potential.

well, it would seem that "gamers like you" are outnumbered by gamers like me. I very much like FFXIV the way it is - it's refreshing. I enjoy playing it the way it is. I never once felt even the remotest desire to play FFXI, and I would quit this game if it became an XI clone.

[Vandark]

You can still play FFXI. I mean, if you think it's that much better. Nothing's stopping you.

They didn't just "add more to 1.0" because the game completely tanked. Whereas FFXIV has actually put SE in the black.

Can't imagine why that might be.

I said revamp FFXI, FFXI as old as it is now with as little updates it gets is a waste of time, the game has been put in there corner and is collecting dust, one day they will simply pull the plug on XI completely.

Instead of choosing to remake XI there best ever money maker they decided to make FF14 which failed then remade FF14 which is for the record just full of shiny stuff to make people feel good but thats about it, the actual game itself is kind of lame compared to it's ancestors.

The reason people liked and played Final Fantasy as an MMO and not just as a console game was because Final Fantasy as an MMO was created completely different to other MMO's from the inside out, the fact that it's become just another generic same old same old MMO has taken away most of it's potential as an original franchise.

Gamers like me who played and enjoyed both FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 played them and loved them because they had something different to offer us than other games, now that Final Fantasy ARR doesn't really offer much different to other MMO's it's kind of lost a huge chunk of it's over all potential.

[Nezacant]

FFXI was awesome and so was 1.0 screw this WoW clone BS, I'm tired of WoW players wrecking our Final Fantasy MMO......

[Chippy2]

This again? FFXI sucked, let's move past it.

FFXI didn't suck and the original poster has a very good point!. There was some great stuff in XI that they could add to XIV. More open world content!. Things like Sky, Sea, Limbus & Dynamis were great. I also like the raids and instanced dungeons from XIV. What's wrong with having a bit off both?. For this game to survive they seriously going to have to consider adding stuff like this!.

[ErBear]

This again? FFXI sucked, let's move past it.

looks like you are in the minority. If it sucked, as you said, it still wouldn't be going to this date.

[MACEenyo]

This again? FFXI sucked, let's move past it.

You suck, and I do not agree with you.

[Obysuca]

You suck, and I do not agree with you.

I've come to the conclusion that those people who say XI sucked either

A) couldn't get into it because they grew up with mmos like WoW

B) never said a word and couldn't build any friendships/bonds to get people to do things with them

C) just plain sucked (yeah there were those lol a hell of a lot rarer than you see on mmos these days, where the majority suck because of spoon fed content)

D) never had any of the good experiences, probably didn't read the storyline and/or tried to solo everything then got mad when they actually had to work with people, which is what a mmo should be

[Canddi]

To be fair to those people it was not newbie friendly AT ALL. If you gave up on the steep learning curve before meeting people to show you the ropes I could understand how people would think it sucked. For myself I would love to go back to 75cap FFXI. Good times....

[Zarzak]

This again? FFXI sucked, let's move past it.

Yea it sucks so much it is still active and producing expansions. EQ and FFXI have stayed around longer than WoW has been around. You know why? Because people quit FFXI/EQ to try WoW. Hit level cap by spamming solo quests and realize "well now theres nothing to do but solo rep grinds and sit in town until raids and shit.. All that soloing from 1-cap I didn't actually get the chance to interact with people and find non idiots to raid with"

Though WoW did a great job of solving that last one by introducing the fantastic system that is LFR. Can't learn how to play a game? Don't worry they will dumb it down so much that a caveman can do it!