[Guide] Paladin Tanking Compendium 2.0

[Arkista]

I'm new to PLD and have been running AK runs since I hit 50 to get DL, anyways when it comes to 3 mobs I'm having a hard time keeping hate at the start I guess because the DPS. I'm marking the mobs so the DPS can focus on it while I build hate on the others This is what I'm doing- Shield Lob/CoS/Flash then I start the Halone Combo on the Mob marked 1 and finish it on 2 or 3 (Rotate it) to keep hate on me while I throw in a flash/CoS when up, Sometimes I lose hate and it will go toward a player and I will Provoke it and that's not enough to get hate back so I Shield Lob sometimes is enough and sometimes it isn't but if not I have to run to it to hit it with RoH and then I lose hate on another cause I'm running to get the mob off the player. What am I doing wrong?

When I have 1-2 mobs I really don't have a problem with controlling hate except with some Relic+1 players even then its not so bad but when Its 3 mobs I have some trouble. I'm alternating between 1/2/3 mobs. Oh Shied Oath is up too.

Maybe having a Relic and DL gear will help.....

I had fun with PLD doing Chimera/Hydra but doing AK hasn't been much fun

Is there a faster way to mark mobs?

[Marcusow86]

What am I doing wrong?

I Usually start marking the target with '1' and do a quick shield lob, approach mobs and use CoS on all of them, then i flash few times (3-4) and then i start doing RoH combo on the marked target. Rotate RoH (combo-ed) to the mobs you are about to lose aggro when applicable. When the marked target is about to die, you can start marking '2' on the second mob and start RoH combo on it.

Assuming your DPS did not AOE the other mobs and just focus their damage on the marked one. The chances of you losing enmity on any mob is very slim.

If they do AOE all the mobs, you should use Cos and Flash until oom and then start doing riot blade combo (Fast blade > Riot blade > Flash). Use CoS when CD is up.

[Balefire]

Great details, wanted to add a couple notes for Food:

At VIT 500, HQ Finger Sandwich is still a better choice than any of the other options available due to the Parry bonus:

500 MA - Finger Sandwich HQ - 15 Vitality, 27 Parry, 9 Accuracy

Not sure if you want to list the same food twice with the different requirements, but listing only at the max value encourages looking further down the list to Eft Steak HQ or La Noscean Toast HQ. As an aside, I would argue the amount of Parry difference vs stats in Eft Steak HQ should warrant it higher priority despite being 1 lower VIT, but not a big deal either way.

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On a side note, someone else mentioned Sauteed Coeurl earlier. Not sure what the HQ values are, but if you stick to the stat prioritization this would make the list as it stands now at:

375 ME - Sauteed Coeurl - 15 Vitality, 9 Accuracy, 22 Skill Speed

[symba]

HQ Sauteed Coeurl is actually 5% (19) vitality, meaning you only need 400~ vit to benefit from it. NQ Version is 22SS/15Vit/9Acc. Otherwise at 500 vitality HQ Finger sandwiches become better than HQ La Noscean Toast, yeah.

[Vairocana]

A couple posts ago is a remark about using Provoke followed by Shield Lob. Provoke gives threat+1. Almost always, if someone is surpassing you in threat, they'll pass you within moments of Provoke. Shield Lob just isn't that much emnity. Try to Provoke then use Rage of Halone, even if it's not up next in your combo. I use Rage of Halone by itself not infrequently for this reason.

If, for example, you're struggling to keep aggro on a group of 3 mobs, do the first part like you say -- Shield Lob, SW/CoS/Flash, Halone combo on #1, then swap to mobs 2/3 and hit each with Rage of Halone only (assuming DPS is mostly single-target). If you need to Provoke/Shield Lob because the mob is far from you, know that you'll need a Rage of Halone in there.

[Pixelshader]

I'm new to PLD and have been running AK runs since I hit 50 to get DL, anyways when it comes to 3 mobs I'm having a hard time keeping hate at the start I guess because the DPS. I'm marking the mobs so the DPS can focus on it while I build hate on the others This is what I'm doing- Shield Lob/CoS/Flash then I start the Halone Combo on the Mob marked 1 and finish it on 2 or 3 (Rotate it) to keep hate on me while I throw in a flash/CoS when up, Sometimes I lose hate and it will go toward a player and I will Provoke it and that's not enough to get hate back so I Shield Lob sometimes is enough and sometimes it isn't but if not I have to run to it to hit it with RoH and then I lose hate on another cause I'm running to get the mob off the player. What am I doing wrong?

When I have 1-2 mobs I really don't have a problem with controlling hate except with some Relic+1 players even then its not so bad but when Its 3 mobs I have some trouble. I'm alternating between 1/2/3 mobs. Oh Shied Oath is up too.

Maybe having a Relic and DL gear will help.....

I had fun with PLD doing Chimera/Hydra but doing AK hasn't been much fun

Is there a faster way to mark mobs?

If you are tanking multiple mobs use the multitanking rotation noted in this guide. You are taking to long to output an even amount of enmity to all mobs.

[PiedPiper]

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Pixel! You finally got read of the tin can opener! CG!

[Pixelshader]

Pixel! You finally got read of the tin can opener! CG!

Haha I did I did! I'm very excited. Next up hands!

[Xairuz]

You just put Shield Oath on and spam the Rage of Halone combo, shouldn't be losing enmity in a single target fight like that.

Yes i shouldn't be, but for some reason I'm losing it sometimes. I try to spam flash, but it doesn't make sense to me for single mob tanking since it will slow down my halone combo. I don't know if it's because the healer is wearing relic/af1.5 since that's the only time I notice when lose aggro from Titan. I don't know I'm baffled.

[SpookyGhost]

Yes i shouldn't be, but for some reason I'm losing it sometimes. I try to spam flash, but it doesn't make sense to me for single mob tanking since it will slow down my halone combo. I don't know if it's because the healer is wearing relic/af1.5 since that's the only time I notice when lose aggro from Titan. I don't know I'm baffled.

If it's a WHM, tell them that Shroud exists. With the amount of healing and AOE healing that goes on in that fight, if they don't Shroud at some point they're going to pull Titan off you no matter what you do.