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    Ariyn's Avatar
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    Enitzu Zen'yr
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    You should be using a combo'd Rage of Halone, the statement you're quoting is about the difference between the enmity generated by a non-combo'd one hitting for 79 vs a combo'd one hitting for 300.
    That was just the statement that I referenced. But the information applies to all of it and the difference between a combo'd and non combo'd RoH is pretty immense. RoH pulling ~500-600 enmity is less then a single flash generates on multiple targets. It is useful and I am not knocking it at all just saying that it should not be the preferred use or even thought about unless we are talking about snap threat after a voke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    (If you have data on Shield Oath showing only 1.2x modifier, which would be a net reduction in enmity, please provide it. Last I checked, people were guessing it's a 1.5x modifier, or a net 1.2x modifier to total enmity after accounting for damage reduction.)
    I know there was a post with a lot of testing done. I will find the link here in a minute for you.

    Edit - Can't find the post I was referring to but have found a few with testing since launch. Seems that it is a common trend showing between 1.2-1.5 times for Shield Oath with no one having a definite answer that I can find. If someone finds solid proof I'd be wanting it as well!
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    Last edited by Ariyn; 11-02-2013 at 02:57 AM.

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    Shusio Ichiban
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    At 50 I stopped marking the mobs i wanted to kill first and in what order. I always run with aoe dps so I just keep hate and let the aoe kills happen. Now If im with dps with no real aoe Ill mark. I feel focusing damage on 1 mob at a time is more efficient imo.
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    Hououin Kyouma
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shusio View Post
    At 50 I stopped marking the mobs i wanted to kill first and in what order. I always run with aoe dps so I just keep hate and let the aoe kills happen. Now If im with dps with no real aoe Ill mark. I feel focusing damage on 1 mob at a time is more efficient imo.
    Correct me if I'm wrong...but isn't it still a good idea to mark the mob the DPS should target when applying their AOE's? I always assumed the actual target of the AOE received more damage than those around it. If this is true, it's beneficial to at least mark the one with the most health and/or the one you're going to focus a few single target enmity skills on.
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    Shusio Ichiban
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nichigo View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong...but isn't it still a good idea to mark the mob the DPS should target when applying their AOE's? I always assumed the actual target of the AOE received more damage than those around it. If this is true, it's beneficial to at least mark the one with the most health and/or the one you're going to focus a few single target enmity skills on.
    From what I have asked and from personal experience. All mobs take the same about of damage.
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    Shusio Ichiban
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Also on your positioning. Try to line the mobs up infront of you. You cant parry or block mobs off to the side or behind you ^^
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    Roy Hildenbrand
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    It depends on person to person. Some people mark all the time, but after a while of doing speed runs with aoe marking becomes kind of redundant. I consider marking more useful when doing a dungeon for the first time or to help someone prioritize who to attack first, etc.

    But when a lot of people have relic +1 everything dies pretty quick. Also depending on the group size might just be easier to flash a bajillion times if everything dies in like 10 seconds.
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    Kurai Entreri
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    When I do WP speed runs its all flash flash flash riot flash.
    How does that make me bad?
    If I DONT do this, DPS pull hate, die, and we all wipe.
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    Vactus Serakai
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I didn't know about running behind first AK boss to avoid Void Thunder, but I do try to stop mindmelt every chance I get.
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vactus View Post
    I didn't know about running behind first AK boss to avoid Void Thunder, but I do try to stop mindmelt every chance I get.
    it helps a lot, basically negates the vast majority of the damage for that specific boss. (technically you could just rotate the boss and make it so he does NO damage beyond mind-melt and canker...but it makes the melee dps angry)

    if you can also can get any bards in your party to silence canker and you manage to interrupt obliterate from the adds you basically make healing this fight the most boring job on the planet.
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    Vactus Serakai
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by saber_alter View Post
    it helps a lot, basically negates the vast majority of the damage for that specific boss. (technically you could just rotate the boss and make it so he does NO damage beyond mind-melt and canker...but it makes the melee dps angry)

    if you can also can get any bards in your party to silence canker and you manage to interrupt obliterate from the adds you basically make healing this fight the most boring job on the planet.
    Did it tonight. Makes things so much easier.
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