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    Vmage's Avatar
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    Mrv Light
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    And it's effectively an average as well. It's the point where you stop being able to use attack. I could use 1000-(mean TP cost), but it doesn't really change anything: you get 129.5 GCDs for Non-Frac and 112.9 for Frac. You'll still have Fracture maintaining a 2.3% lead on damage for the first 113 GCDs that fades to nothingness at 130 (a .08% advantage) and proceeds to remain functionally nonexistent thanks to the dilution of the previous 130 GCDs (a .48% lead at 8 minutes).

    I haven't changed my reasoning at all. My reasoning the entire time is that the TP cost on Fracture makes it an attack that you don't want to use because it doesn't add enough damage to your attack rotation to make it justifiable. I've refined the math, but the reasoning has remained the entire time.
    which encounters are you referencing here?

    I mean.. on any of the primals I have the excess TP and enmity lead to throw in fractures

    same goes for any of the turns in coil..

    I agree 100% that you shouldn't use fracture if you're in any danger of running yourself out of TP as it's a dps loss at that point... but when exactly does that happen ?
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Vmage View Post
    I mean.. on any of the primals I have the excess TP and enmity lead to throw in fractures

    same goes for any of the turns in coil..
    Even on good Titan runs, I'll end up bottoming out TP when Titan is about 15-30%. On Caduceus, I'll run out during the split when my snake is at 20-30%. Ifrit give long enough empty time frames (Ifrit especially) that you're never going to run out of TP, but, if your DPS is mediocre on Garuda, the same can happen towards the end. Most of the end game fights, unless you have insane DPS, last long enough for you to run out of TP towards the end while the boss still has 1-2 minutes of life left. The fights are just that long.
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    Colin Chulainn
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Vmage View Post
    same goes for any of the turns in coil..
    You must have the worst uptimes imaginable on bosses then or your DPS are insanely geared and well played or your healers somehow don't need MP ballad so your BRD plays around with TP instead.

    I always bottom out on TP on every turn boss just using a standard BB > BB > SE rotation, outside of using Over Power on Phase 1 and 4 of turn 4 (which isn't a drain due to having TP Ballad running at that time).
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