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    Laryndra's Avatar
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    Nanaa Mihgo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    This isn't entirely true here... FFXIV's RNG is a bit screwed up. Ask any crafter or gatherer how often they see a 90% success action fail 5+ times in a row. Personally I'll see a string of unlikely failures or unlikely successes multiple times a day yet the odds would dictate it should occur more like once a month. Now random is random I know, but when all the crafters in my FC report the same thing... well that's proof positive the RNG in this game doesn't work as far as I'm concerned.
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    As an avid crafter I debunk this garbage. 90% is 90% and always has been for me and everyone else. You tend to notice the failures more than the successes.
    Also - as was said earlier in the thread. There are double the DPS in a balanced raid, therefore it makes SENSE that double the DD loot drops.
    Also - Token system is in the game. Allagan tome of Mythology.
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laryndra View Post
    As an avid crafter I debunk this garbage. 90% is 90% and always has been for me and everyone else. You tend to notice the failures more than the successes.
    Re-read my post. Nowhere did I say it wasn't 90%, I said the algorithm was screwed up. I also specifically said SUCCESSES and failures seem to occur in strings that defy their odds far too often. I'm not just moaning because I had a string of bad luck. Given a large enough sample, yes, it does come to 90% (or whatever the odds are for the action in question); the problem is that it seems to do this with long strings of successes or failures and very few cases of anything else.

    Regularly I will see 5 or so crafts with nothing but successes followed by a craft with almost ALL failures. As a one-off that might be dismissed as bad luck but it occurs far too often for that to just be luck. As I said, my FC reports the same issue. It's rare for us to have a craft with a balance of success and failures; it is pretty much always skewed entirely one way or the other.

    Go keep a tally of your action outcomes, I guarantee you will see frequent strings (good or bad) that should be extremely rare. The overall odds should balance out to the correct % but the way the algorithm gets there is completely wrong. It's more like it tries to balance itself out which defies the entire point of RNG.
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    Robin Ster
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    I haven't seen anything to suggest the RNG is screwed up. There are going to be far more DPS drops simply because there's more DPS to drop.
    As it is you get tokens and maybe a drop for equivalent iLVL, that's a good hybrid system.

    I'd also bet a million dollars that each crafting event probability is completely independent.
    People are terrible at seat-of-the-pants probability figuring.
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