Titan is too forgiving to be worth a relic

[Raikki]

Why is that an issue? If a group can beat it, they can beat it. Why are you punishing those five people for helping three other people out? Do soldiers that die in a war not count towards their nation's victory?

How is this fair to the tank and healers who don't get a free win from the floor, but DPS do?

Been carried it's an entirely different question, and have nothing to do with random behavior of a boss or not. A skilled party will most likely win the encounter with a leecher, as always been in every mmorpg of the earth. It don't remove run seller, leechers, carriers etc

Fair enough, we're talking about different things then. I'm fine with the fight being a pattern, I just think it should have a tighter DPS check after heart to require more people to stay alive to win.

[Morgan_Leah]

Daily "relics are 2 ez" thread. What time is the "titan is too difficult" thread scheduled to be posted?

[misterrpg]

ARR was designed for the masses, people who generally find challenge or "work" in an MMO "outdated design" or "go back to FFXI" etc. They made this game extremely easy in order to make this game accessible and successful, this is why people will always chime in with "oh so you beat coil 5 yet?" like that .1% of content makes up the majority of this game.

They even held off on Crystal Tower to make sure it was easy enough to be done via DF.

and this is why this game fails at everything it tries to do.

Edit: I'm willing to bet a million gil that a dev will respond to this thread saying "We understand your frustration and the inconvenience this may have caused you. We are happy to report that the Titan, Garuda, and Ifrit hard mode battles can now be completed by clicking a "Beat Boss" button. Please be excited for patch 2.1. Also, your entire AF+1/2 gear will now only cost 1 Mythology tomestone."

[CatofNineTails]

LMAO!!! this is absolutely hilarious! for weeks people have filled this forum with complaints about how it takes XXX equipment and XXX Weapons to even be accepted as a Titan runner because god forbid should a new player potentially ruin the run. now that a percentage of players are doing it in full relics and +1's ....etc... threads like this were expected.

the fight shouldn't give said drops. because its too scripted and easy. there's no way to un-script the fight but if you feel no challenge leave all the OP gear in your coffer and use the original AF again see how good you are when your equipment is not carrying your butt through the fight. its easy to make the existing content more challenging but the biggest complainers about DPS and GEAR needs are also the last to actually attempt to make things a challenge.

[EdwinLi]

The issue I see why this happen is that the first 4 stages of the fight is within 100% to 50% of Titan's HP.

we hit each stage every 10% during his first 50% of his HP and once we hit 50% HP it is basically a survive until Titan is down.

What they should have done is properly separate each stage within the 100% HP range instead of making all 4 stages only cover 50% of his HP and then the remaining 50% is just a survive until hit 0% fight.

each Stage should have been separated between every 20% of Titans HP in Hard Mode so each Stage can be covered through out the Titan HM fight. This makes the need to survive longer more important since the final stage won't happen until the last 20%.

[BillyBones]

Oh look, it's this thread again. Go join a random PUG, then come back and tell me how easy it was. No matter how good you are, depending on your luck you will spend days non-stop wiping. You know, some people play in casual FCs with their friends and don't want to leave them for a hardcore guild where everyone can beat Titan.
If you have friends and people who will help you out then yes, it is easy. If you don't then no, it's not.

[Kiroh]

ITT : Now that I've beat X content, I want it to be harder for everyone else so I can feel special.

[Raikki]

Oh look, it's this thread again. Go join a random PUG, then come back and tell me how easy it was. No matter how good you are, depending on your luck you will spend days non-stop wiping.

I did join a random PUG, this morning, which is why I made this thread. We 1-shot it with 3 people off the edge by the end and another dead to plumes. I'm happy for the people who survived, but the people lying on the floor still had work to do before they earned their relic in my opinion.

The problem seems to be that bad heart phases are stopping people from getting enough phase 5 experience, but once they get past the heart phase if there are a few people who know how to do it they can promptly die and still get the win without having to learn it themselves.

[Terius]

Look guys she one shot it with a random pug a few times, nevermind the 10's or 100's of PUGs that fail on a daily basis, its too easy because they've done it a few times.

[JayvirDeforte]

ARR was designed for the masses, people who generally find challenge or "work" in an MMO "outdated design" or "go back to FFXI" etc. They made this game extremely easy in order to make this game accessible and successful, this is why people will always chime in with "oh so you beat coil 5 yet?" like that .1% of content makes up the majority of this game.

They even held off on Crystal Tower to make sure it was easy enough to be done via DF.

They held off on Crystal Tower because it ended up being HARDER than Coil, which is supposed to be the hardest content in the game. Don't make up excuses.