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  1. #21
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    Chocob0charmer's Avatar
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    Chocobocharmer Bahamut
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyith View Post
    Slot l Version
    -----l--------
    Head l Allagan (T4) Stats w/HQ La Noscean Toast
    Body l Valor (825 Myth) ACC:481 (Lalafell)
    Hand l Valor (495 Myth) PAR:610
    Leg l Valor (825 Myth) VIT:526
    Feet l Allagan (T1) STR:355
    Weap l Relic+1 (600 Myth) BLK:181
    Shield l Relic+1 (300 Myth) DEF:758
    Belt l Allagan (T2)
    Neck l Allagan (T1)
    Ear l Allagan (T2)
    Wrist l Allagan (T4)
    Ring l Allagan/Hero (T2)/(375 Myth)


    Happy Grinding
    Gear stats may make sense, but buying Valor body and farming Allagan head is completely backwards, why would you buy a turn 1 drop and farm a turn 4?
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  2. #22
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    Jahaudant's Avatar
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    Jahaudant Rivea
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Let's not forget that Valor body is better than Allagan anyway. It's certainly a worthwhile investment unless you already have Allagan body in which case you are better off upgrading other i60/i70 pieces first.
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  3. #23
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    Symbiant's Avatar
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    Symbiant Disciple
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariyn View Post
    Looking at the BiS list, I could agree with your true BiS if and only if it was to be confirmed that acc cap is in fact 482. I have always heard that is 472 and haven't found much of anything to dispute that.

    If the cap is 472 then the allagan wrists with valor gloves is BiS but only because of the extra 1 parry and dropping your acc to 479. Personally I will be going this route until I can really get into T5 and see where I stand on misses etc. As of right now I sit at 477 with food and don't notice misses at all.
    If cap is 472 bis would be w/o food

    A-HELM
    V-CHEST
    A-GUANT
    V-LEGS
    A-FEET
    A-RING
    H-RING
    A-NECK
    A-EAR
    H-WIST
    A-BLADE
    A-SHIELD

    That would meet the or surpass 472 by a small number.
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  4. #24
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    Gazelleee's Avatar
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    Harmony Rave
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 22
    no way in HELL you will hit 8.1k on PLD. PLD hp is essentially the same as WAR before defiance (same gear).

    I am wearing WAR gear on lodestone, but check it out...

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1639723/
    [main acct has authenticator, am at work so on this act]

    8 piece ilvl90, 4 piece ilvl70. (there is only 20 more VIT left from gear...)

    And I only have 6344HP no food, no party buff. And this is with no itemization for coil (look at acc). I only raid on PLD since can get ACC cap.
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  5. #25
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    Jahaudant's Avatar
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    Jahaudant Rivea
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariyn View Post
    Looking at the BiS list, I could agree with your true BiS if and only if it was to be confirmed that acc cap is in fact 482. I have always heard that is 472 and haven't found much of anything to dispute that.

    If the cap is 472 then the allagan wrists with valor gloves is BiS but only because of the extra 1 parry and dropping your acc to 479. Personally I will be going this route until I can really get into T5 and see where I stand on misses etc. As of right now I sit at 477 with food and don't notice misses at all.
    So basically exactly what I posted?

    Technically you can change out Allagan shield for Holy Shield +1 and hit exactly 472 accuracy while gaining an extra 7 skill speed - but the unreliability of all accuracy testing I've seen makes me want that little extra buffer (until I see solid proof at least). Currently the only solid accuracy testing was done in beta with numbers for current game being different and data sources being unreliable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Symbiant View Post
    If cap is 472 bis would be w/o food

    A-HELM
    V-CHEST
    A-GUANT
    V-LEGS
    A-FEET
    A-RING
    H-RING
    A-NECK
    A-EAR
    H-WIST
    A-BLADE
    A-SHIELD

    That would meet the or surpass 472 by a small number.
    This set gives you 489 accuracy and 601 parry with food. Probably shouldn't use it!

    As I mentioned above in reply to Ariyn, this is the best you can get if you assume the accuracy requirement for turn 5 is 472.

    Weapon - Allagan Blade
    Shield - Holy Shield +1
    Head - Allagan
    Chest - Valor
    Gloves - Valor
    Belt - Allagan
    Legs - Valor
    Feet - Allagan
    Neck - Allagan Fend
    Ear - Allagan Fend
    Wrist - Allagan Fend
    Ring - Hero's Fend
    Ring - Allagan Fend
    Food - HQ La Noscean Toast

    472 acc, 618 parry
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    Last edited by Jahaudant; 10-26-2013 at 03:29 AM.

  6. #26
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    Symbiant's Avatar
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    Symbiant Disciple
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
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    472 acc, 618 parry
    I think I clearly stated w/o food on my post did I not? My preferred method is not using food into the equation. Add toast to the Bis I listed and its 484 acc, 617 Par of course it depends on the race but those number typically vary little. As I stated before I prefer not to have food into the equation and minus food this has 475 acc and 594 par.
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  7. #27
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    Curly Brace
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    HP is calculated as follows:

    (n*85)+((VIT-202)*14.5)

    PLD: N=24
    DRG: N=23
    WAR: N=25
    BRD/WHM/BLM/SMN/SCH: N=21
    MNK: N=22

    Base stats for all classes/races for Acc/Crit/SkillSpeed/SpellSpeed/Parry are 341.
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    Last edited by CurlyBruce; 10-26-2013 at 05:52 AM.

  8. #28
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    Enitzu Zen'yr
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    As I mentioned above in reply to Ariyn, this is the best you can get if you assume the accuracy requirement for turn 5 is 472.

    Weapon - Allagan Blade
    Shield - Holy Shield +1
    Head - Allagan
    Chest - Valor
    Gloves - Valor
    Belt - Allagan
    Legs - Valor
    Feet - Allagan
    Neck - Allagan Fend
    Ear - Allagan Fend
    Wrist - Allagan Fend
    Ring - Hero's Fend
    Ring - Allagan Fend
    Food - HQ La Noscean Toast

    472 acc, 618 parry
    This is the same set I came up with in open beta for a BiS. Except like you I went with the allagan shield since extra acc doesnt hurt with unknown caps and the 7 skill speed wouldn't make any difference at all
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  9. #29
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    Jahaudant Rivea
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Symbiant View Post
    I think I clearly stated w/o food on my post did I not? My preferred method is not using food into the equation. Add toast to the Bis I listed and its 484 acc, 617 Par of course it depends on the race but those number typically vary little. As I stated before I prefer not to have food into the equation and minus food this has 475 acc and 594 par.
    You did mention the thing about not using food, which I don't agree with but you are of course entitled to do whatever you like! The problem is the set you posted gives 578 parry and 480 accuracy without food or as I said.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    489 accuracy and 601 parry with food.
    You've basically created a 472 accuracy set that is unequivocally worse than the one I posted a while before it. If that's the set you want to use then I won't try to persuade you otherwise but you shouldn't be potentially misguiding other players by calling it a "Best in Slot" set when it quite clearly isn't.
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  10. #30
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    Chad Thunderkoch
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    None of these are really best in slot unless your only goal is to touch yourself to HP values.
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