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    Gyith's Avatar
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    Gyith Ultimate
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 50

    PLD BiS (ACC Capped T5)

    Slot l Version
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    Head l Allagan (T4) Stats w/HQ La Noscean Toast
    Body l Valor (825 Myth) ACC:481 (Lalafell)
    Hand l Valor (495 Myth) PAR:610
    Leg l Valor (825 Myth) VIT:526
    Feet l Allagan (T1) STR:355
    Weap l Relic+1 (600 Myth) BLK:181
    Shield l Relic+1 (300 Myth) DEF:758
    Belt l Allagan (T2)
    Neck l Allagan (T1)
    Ear l Allagan (T2)
    Wrist l Allagan (T4)
    Ring l Allagan/Hero (T2)/(375 Myth)

    This list I put together after hours of math and comparing items. Keeping with the 480 ACC cap for T5 in Coil I went with Parry as the best secondary stat for PLD. Another note worthy cap is 363 STR for an extra 1% mitigation for parry/block. Should Have around 8.1k HP with 3% party buff and food buff. (Also the T1-4 next to the item refers to the turn in coil it drops from.)
    Happy Grinding
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    Last edited by Gyith; 10-24-2013 at 07:02 PM.

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    Anthreas Longshadow
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    If I saw a PLD with 8.1k HP, I'd prolly shit my pants lol, maybe one day I'll get there! Good info, thanks!
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    Casper Theghost
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    Are yous ure it is not 7.1K hp ? 8?1k seems insanely high. I have about 5750 in full party with no food, relic, full DL, mytho hands and ring. I miss 4 * 5 vit for each accessory, 17* 2 for each body+head and legs+feet, 5 for belt, 4 for sword, 2 for shield, totalling 65. 65 * 14 = 910 HP. With food i can see you getting to 7.1k, sure, but 8.1k seems off by about 70 vitality, which is insane.
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    Lucavern D'karnak
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Unless you have new information about the Allagan Head, it does not drop in T4.

    Not sure I agree with your Acc cap value, as I've heard a variety of different values from ~480-484 from different sources. Switching from Relic +1 to Allagan Blade/Shield will lower Acc by 1, but gain 8 parry. This change would still keep you in the target range for speculated T5 acc cap.

    Also, where are you getting your math for the max HP? I would really like to see this, as my current formulas put current cap with party buff and food at ~6.9k. Would really like to see the formula that you are using that puts this up at 8.1k.

    Edit:
    Taking a second look at the numbers he came up with, I am guessing you multiplied the entire VIT by a certain value? This will not work, as the VIT:HP ratio is not correct for the BASE amounts. Take a look at a post I made in other thread for HP formula for BASE vit:HP. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...12#post1468512
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    Last edited by Lucavern; 10-24-2013 at 11:01 PM.

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    Ciana Iezuborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavern View Post
    Edit:
    Taking a second look at the numbers he came up with, I am guessing you multiplied the entire VIT by a certain value? This will not work, as the VIT:HP ratio is not correct for the BASE amounts. Take a look at a post I made in other thread for HP formula for BASE vit:HP. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...12#post1468512
    Yeah base hp calculations are all messed up. I did figure that base paladin vit/hp is 194/2214 before bonus stats/race stats. If you subtract 194 from the final Vitality, multiply it by 14.5, then add 2214 hp it should come up clean. That base 194/2214 doesn't divide cleanly into the 14.5 coefficient though.
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    Shaenrael Calgarawyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavern View Post
    Not sure I agree with your Acc cap value, as I've heard a variety of different values from ~480-484 from different sources. Switching from Relic +1 to Allagan Blade/Shield will lower Acc by 1, but gain 8 parry. This change would still keep you in the target range for speculated T5 acc cap.
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    Allagan Shield has 11 ACC while Holy Shield +1 has 7 Skill Speed.

    You lose 8 swithing between weapons, but get 11 from the shield, which is a net gain of 3.

    Quote Originally Posted by dark494 View Post

    Allagan ring has 11 skill speed, I know some people consider the myth earring which has another 16 skill speed. It could matter.

    All 3 items will net you .03 second faster GCD's.
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    Qt Symba
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Allagan shield has 7 accuracy
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    Kamahl Stormblessed
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I currently have Valor head/chest/gloves, myth ring, allegan shield, regular curtana, the rest darklight. I sit at 6.2k hp with food.
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    Enitzu Zen'yr
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 70
    no idea why it took you so long to come up with this I've had this saved as PLD BiS pre T5 since phase 4 lol. Adding the Allagan Sword and Shield to this puts your acc at 472 but ups parry some making that BiS overall. you could even swap the relic shield with allagan as it wouldn't make any difference considering this set has virtually no skill speed so losing 7 skill speed for 7 more acc would make no noticeable difference. All of my calculations were done with no food though so 472 acc + the acc buff from food would still put you over the cap
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  10. 10-25-2013 02:54 AM
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