[Guide] Paladin Tanking Compendium 2.0

[James1213]

Hmm if 472 is the recommended gear level for Coil, with base stats and DL + Heavy Darksteel I can only hit 436 Accy without slotting accy materia. Even with 2 parry and 2 accuracy, i can only hit 460 accuracy.

Is it worth not equiping DL rings and keeping Hoplite for the accuracy? Changing 6 Determination for 11 accuracy for 3 less vit and 4 less parry?

Keep in mind that HQ toast should give you some accuracy too, but to rely on food for accuracy is a bit flawed imo, i would rather have it on my set in case I die and get rezed.

Also accuracy cap is VERY important if you are doing the interrupts on the ADSs, wouldn't want a High voltage going off when its your turn to interrupt and you miss.

I personally still run a hoplite ring, and before i got my myth chest and head I ran the hoplite earrings for accuracy, it helps out a ton on threat because a missed link in the combo causes the combo to break if i remember correctly.

[Griffeth]

Thoughts on +1 relic or some other myth items first?

[Absion]

Thanks for the frequent updates. This guide just keeps improving every time I don't look at it for awhile. Now if the Vanity system can just come out... I agree with your best in slot choices. I just don't like that eventually every other paladin will look the same as me.

[Tanaya]

Thoughts on +1 relic or some other myth items first?

+1 Curtana would be the last upgrade I'd make, in my honest opinion. +1 Holy Shield is worth it, and only demands a week's worth of work.

Otherwise, it'd depend on what Allagan gear you obtain during Coil. In my instance, I got Allagan Body, so I got Valor Head instead of Valor Body.

[AliceRosen]

Are the penta-meld Lv70 crafted accessories still consider BiS when compared to AF2 and ALG accessories?

[Griffeth]

+1 Curtana would be the last upgrade I'd make, in my honest opinion. +1 Holy Shield is worth it, and only demands a week's worth of work.

Otherwise, it'd depend on what Allagan gear you obtain during Coil. In my instance, I got Allagan Body, so I got Valor Head instead of Valor Body.

Thats kind of what I was thinking. I have like 1200 after I cap this week. 300 for the shield gives me 900 to play with. Should I wait until after we run Coil to see what drops or buy something now?

[Grembo]

Thought I kinda knew what I was doing with PLD but I just learnt a fair bit

Thanks to the OP and everyone else for their input here.

Couple of questions though.

1. The Circle of Scorn Macro doesn't appear to be working for me. I'm getting CoS when if it's off cooldown but no flash and I only get flash when CoS is on cooldown, I checked battle log to be sure and Flash is not hitting at the same time as CoS

Here's what I have typed in the macro.

/ac “Circle of Scorn” <me>
/ac Flash <me>

2. Can anyone give an example of how and when Stoneskin should be used? I hear all the time it's one of the better cross class abilities for PLD but I have never saw an example of it's usage.

3. This one is a bit cheeky but is there a similar guide lying around anywhere for the WAR class? A lot of what i've read in here could be applied to WAR so that's a good start but it would be nice to have something as detailed as this guide for the WAR class.

[ExarKun007]

Grembo, I was wondering the same thing. I haven't gotten into the endgame stuff yet, so I don't have the experience to put anything together. The equipment list is still a big help.

RE: Stoneskin. It's for times when the boss turns away to do a random targeted attack on another raid member and you won't be taking damage. Assuming you have a big enough threat lead to stop attacking.

[Eightbit]

Grembo, I believe your macro is missing a wait time in between, otherwise the game views it as "if CoS is available -> CoS, if CoS is unavailable -> flash". Could be wrong going off memory from the one macro I have made.

[Lucavern]

Grembo, I believe your macro is missing a wait time in between, otherwise the game views it as "if CoS is available -> CoS, if CoS is unavailable -> flash". Could be wrong going off memory from the one macro I have made.

This is correct. Without a wait time this macro won't work. Essentially, if CoS is available, it will always use CoS. If its on CD, it will use flash. The way to fix this is by putting a /wait # between the two abilities. The exact value to use might vary person to person due to latency/skill speed. What you will need to calculate is the time it takes for the CoS animation to complete, and then add a small buffer for latency. I.e. if it takes .5 seconds to finish the CoS animation, then make it .6 or .7 for the wait time.

2. Can anyone give an example of how and when Stoneskin should be used? I hear all the time it's one of the better cross class abilities for PLD but I have never saw an example of it's usage.

Some examples of when I use Stoneskin:
Titan
- During Jump phases - This works nicely as my group stacks on tank for touchdown. As long as you are positioned inside the safe zone, can get stoneskin off before Titan moves again.
- Mountain Buster (Table Flip) - Titan has a set pattern that he does before this hit. Can get stoneskin off in conjunction with a defensive CD and negate alot of the attack. (Getting MB to deal under 2k dmg is not hard with this method)

Coil Turn 1
- Caduceus - Once the boss has split, my group has all dps burn 1 boss to ~5% and then switch. Off tank keeps the new clone where we started, and MT moves the original to new location. Hate is already established for MTs target, and MT can just rotate Stoneskin and other Defensives to cut down on healing requirements

Coil Turn 2
- If PLD is currently not active tank, can chain Stoneskin the other tank to help cut down on dmg. I.e. my group uses 2 pld here. I start as 1st tank and OT casts SS on me throughout. Once we switch off mid fight, I start SS spam on him.

Coil Turn 4
- Wave 6 - Once hate is established on both Dreadnoughts, can rotate stoneskin and defensive CDs to cut down on dmg intake while remaining adds are dealt with.