Nerf FATEs, but don't

[Wobble]

I have to say I like fates but, I ran a dungeon the other day for the first time as smn (lower dungeon with some friends.) I noticed I knew very little about my job mechanics. So yes while fates are the fastest and easiest way to level a job do yourselves a favor and run dungeons if only the lower ones so you can practice in a party setting. I know most join parties in fates but honestly they just aren't as good as actual dungeon parties since all fate parties do is steam roll though the mobs.

[PsychologyPhD]

I agree with the OP. Increase fate spawns and remove dungeons.

[SIXTYONESIX]

I like FATEs. I think they should nerf them. The swarm of players rushing them makes them wholly uninteresting. I doubt most people spamming FATEs are enjoying them either; they just want to level the fastest way there is.

It's already pretty stupid that people can get max level in a week or less. They should bring FATE xp to be more in line with leves and dungeons, not bring dungeons and leves xp up to match the FATE.

Since the first days of beta, I had always hoped that the xp gain was just accelerated so testers could give feedback on the higher level stuff on short testing schedules. Sadly, I was disappointed. I wish leveling was a lot slower than it is. Not anywhere near FFXI's drudgery, but significantly longer than a week.

[PSxpert2011]

I actually love FATEs and it's up to the individuals how they use 'em. I'm not going to lecture how you should play your game.

OP, if you really wanted to suggest change, why didn't you suggest it through another forum or contact them through customer service? It's probably going to receive a lot more critique here than it will there it would probably go ignored. Not everyone plays Final Fantasy the same way. I love FATEs, it's a lot faster to get seals than it used to in 1.0. The problem I think with FATEs is, it's "too weak". I think they should add puzzles or strategies to beat the NMs.

Some low level FATEs are what they are, easy way to get exp and seals which is great.

[Lisotte]

Leveling exclusively via fates doesn't necessarily make a player bad, but it sure doesn't help. There's some people who can fate grind a job to 50 then instantly go do titan. Others might have quested to 50 and still have no clue what to do. There's even some who might have bumbled through some dungeons and be clueless by 50. But that's a lot less likely.

I don't think anyone really enjoys the fate experience, so if they just made dungeons a decently viable way of leveling that gave exp equal to fates, I think most people would run dungeons. While queued they could still go do fates so not wait around bored.

[Skullcrusher]

heres another idea, how about reducing fates xp alltogether...

Give dungeons a massive xp buff as well as leves.

Fates, being the most boring, mindless and utterly braindead activity ive ever experienced in any mmo, should be abolished alltogether.

Why fates? Gw2 questing worked really well, why not copy of that.Reset each quest for each class you have.

Its not rocket science, square seem to think it is.

tell me, when theres 40 ppl running from fate to fate, then actually trying to compete in it ( fates should have an epilepsy warning ), im questioning WTF was sqeenix thinking when they designed these things..

Dungeons, that are harder content, are less of a reward then a braindead ,zerging activity!!!!! What are mmos coming too....

[Sub-Xero]

I like FATEs. I think they should nerf them. The swarm of players rushing them makes them wholly uninteresting. I doubt most people spamming FATEs are enjoying them either; they just want to level the fastest way there is.

I agree.

/10 char

[KimimiAvesta]

Dungeons definitely need a buff - I don't enjoy FATE grinding SCH but when I get 20,000+ XP for two minutes work anything else is just a waste of time. I don't need to grind dungeons for equipment either, I've got a (almost complete) Darklight healer set waiting for me once I hit 50.

One thing I'd *really*like to see (assuming it's not already in game - I certainly can't find it) is for NPC quests to show you the quest *level* as well as the quest *name* on the map - as far as I can see you can't find out until you start talking to them, so I've got no idea if I'm going to end up with a level 5 task that's not worth doing or a level 40 one I can't even accept until I'm right in front of them.

[Jynx]

You could decrease the appearance and lower the exp and I bet everyone would still FATE because it's a 0 effort way to gain experience.

People defending fates as a good system will never see eye to eye with me, I think to play a MMO you should have to do that, play the game not tab target and smash your closest AOE skill button.

[Naberrie]

How about this, do the same shout for someone who leveled entirely through quests

Only quests? So they're level is, what, 15? I'd be okay with that.