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    The ends combo events I included to simulate the "10 second" or w/e duration you have to continue the combo. E.g. True Thrust puts up a TT combo buff for Vorpal to use to gain the combo bonus. The TT "combo buff" ends in 10s (or w/e the time is). Not really useful for a normal scenario, but maybe for fringe simulation cases at some point, or to simulate someone failing to press the correct button (e.g. they press TT -> FT, skipping Vorpal).

    Jumps take longer than the OGCD. Hard to say by exactly how much. I'd guesstimate roughly 0.5 seconds of delay on the next GCD. So a total of 1.5-2.0s. It does also depends on which ability you animated before using the jump though. There seems to be a pretty good variance in attacks, with DE/CT/PH being the fastest, FT/TT being decently fast, and VP/ID/HT being consistently slow.
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    Mmk, I'm going to just have a generic "combo ends" event that only occurs if combos are ignored or incorrectly terminated.

    The engine will store the last combo action so will also indicate which combo was done incorrectly.

    I'm going to simulate jumps as a 0.5 second delay for now, maybe will make it more intricate based on previous action later.
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    Ughhhhhh I got a headache writing this.

    Its almost done, putting in the last stuff now.

    Need following info:
    • What is the approximate damage contribution of Disembowel
    • Can someone give me a priority instead of a rotation
    • Does using fracture break combos.
    • Is fracture DoT affected by disembowel
    • Is disembowel counted as a "buff" when applying DoTs, does it affect DoTs as they tick or at time of initial application

    EDIT: also, does ID give combo even if not behind target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    [*]What is the approximate damage contribution of Disembowel
    Multiplicative 10% on piercing damage; e.g. all direct damage for DRGs and BRDs. Unconfirmed whether it affects the direct damage of Windbite and/or Venomous Bite depending on how they're coded.

    [*]Can someone give me a priority instead of a rotation
    If combo: finish combo.
    No combo: if HT buff < 3s, HT
    No combo: if PH = no, PH
    No combo: if CT < 4.8s, ID
    Else: TT

    Edit: Should should roughly result in the HP IDC TTT / HP TTT TTT rotation. Exact times may need to be tweaked.

    [*]Does using fracture break combos.
    Any on-GCD ability will break the combo.

    [*]Is fracture DoT affected by disembowel
    No DoTs are / are supposed to be affected by Disembowel.

    [*]Is disembowel counted as a "buff" when applying DoTs, does it affect DoTs as they tick or at time of initial application
    N/A.

    EDIT: also, does ID give combo even if not behind target.
    No. Fail position is a fail combo; this applies to HT -> ROT as well.
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    Last edited by EasymodeX; 10-23-2013 at 01:50 AM.

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    Wow okay, now I see why lancers are horrendous on demon wall.

    Eugh.
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    Hi!

    I've decided to not upload the simulators anymore unless someone specifically requests it.

    What is probably more useful for everyone is for people to send me their rotations and I'll plug them in and calculate the dps for you.

    PS, here is the (trimmed) output for DRG.

    Please let me know if there is something glaringly wrong:

    Code:
    Starting Dragoon Simulation: Trial 0
    # of Targets: 1
    Boss|0	
    Base Critical Chance: 12%
    Recast Buffer: 100
    Fight Duration: 12000
    Execute Starts: 9600
    
    [0]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (170)
    [125]	: BFB - Blood for Blood (traited) - Boss - 
    [250]	: PH - Phlebotomize - Boss -  (243.1)
    [375]	: IR - Internal Release - Boss - 
    [500]	: ID - Impulse Drive - Boss -  (386.1!)
    [625]	: PSURGE - Power Surge - Boss - 
    [750]	: DE - Disembowel - Boss -  (314.6)
    [875]	: JU - Jump - Boss - Power Surge (707.85!)
    [1000]	: CT - Chaos Thrust - Boss -  (251.68)
    [1125]	: DFD - Dragonfire Dive - Boss -  (589.88!)
    [1250]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (353.93!)
    [1375]	: SSD - Spineshatter Dive - Boss -  (267.41)
    [1500]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (314.6)
    [1625]	: PSURGE_END - PSurge Ends - Boss - 
    [1625]	: LSURGE - Life Surge - Boss - 
    [1750]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (707.85!)
    [1875]	: LS - Leg Sweep - Boss -  (204.49)
    [2000]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (267.41)
    [2250]	: PH - Phlebotomize - Boss -  (205.7)
    [2500]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (181.5)
    [2750]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (242)
    [3000]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (363)
    [3250]	: ID - Impulse Drive - Boss -  (217.8)
    [3500]	: DE - Disembowel - Boss -  (266.2)
    [3750]	: CT - Chaos Thrust - Boss -  (193.6)
    [4000]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (205.7)
    [4125]	: LS - Leg Sweep - Boss -  (157.3)
    [4250]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (181.5)
    [4500]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (242)
    [4750]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (363)
    [5000]	: PH - Phlebotomize - Boss -  (205.7)
    [5125]	: JU - Jump - Boss -  (242)
    [5250]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (181.5)
    [5500]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (242)
    [5750]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (544.5!)
    [6000]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (205.7)
    [6250]	: ID - Impulse Drive - Boss -  (217.8)
    [6375]	: LS - Leg Sweep - Boss -  (157.3)
    [6500]	: DE - Disembowel - Boss -  (363!)
    [6625]	: IR - Internal Release - Boss - 
    [6750]	: CT - Chaos Thrust - Boss -  (193.6)
    [7000]	: PH - Phlebotomize - Boss -  (308.55!)
    [7250]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (181.5)
    [7500]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (242)
    [7625]	: LSURGE - Life Surge - Boss - 
    [7750]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (363)
    [7875]	: INVIG - Invigorate - Boss - 
    [8000]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (308.55!)
    [8125]	: BFB - Blood for Blood (traited) - Boss - 
    [8250]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (235.95)
    [8375]	: LS - Leg Sweep - Boss -  (204.49)
    [8500]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (314.6)
    [8750]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (471.9)
    [9000]	: PH - Phlebotomize - Boss -  (401.12!)
    [9125]	: JU - Jump - Boss -  (314.6)
    [9250]	: ID - Impulse Drive - Boss -  (424.71!)
    [9500]	: DE - Disembowel - Boss -  (314.6)
    [9750]	: CT - Chaos Thrust - Boss -  (377.52!)
    [9875]	: PSURGE - Power Surge - Boss - 
    [10000]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (267.41)
    [10250]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (181.5)
    [10375]	: SSD - Spineshatter Dive - Boss - Power Surge (308.55)
    [10500]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (242)
    [10625]	: LS - Leg Sweep - Boss -  (157.3)
    [10750]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (363)
    [10875]	: PSURGE_END - PSurge Ends - Boss - 
    [11000]	: PH - Phlebotomize - Boss -  (205.7)
    [11250]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (181.5)
    [11500]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (242)
    [11750]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (544.5!)
    [12000]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (308.55!)
    Total Potency: 24805.88
    TP Used: 2810
    Ending TP Balance: 590
    EDIT: did some preliminary testing and comparison.

    BRD on single target does ~5% more pure potency than DRG, but uses 5-10% more TP. This is problematic, as DRG also get better invig.

    Also, DRG has ~10% more weapon damage than BRD.

    So it seems pretty even for now, albeit bard has much more mobility.
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    Last edited by pandabearcat; 10-23-2013 at 03:39 AM.

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    1. Power Surge should be consumed by the first Jump and therefore end prematurely.

    2. The exact time specified for CT check / ID execution needs to be increased -- the second cycle should not result in TTT IDC. It should be TTT TTT.

    3. Leg Sweep should be prioritized before DFD/SSD, but after Jump.


    As a general observation, that agrees with my model: BRDs end up with slightly higher PPS, but less DPS due to the significantly lower WD.
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    Made changes. CT check is now 4 seconds from expiring instead of 4.8, LS ahead of the other two jumps.

    Power surge was consumed early, but the event displayed regardless. Event is now gagged unless psurge expires instead of is consumed.

    EDIT: omg i broke power surge again. This ability sucks >.>

    EDIT2: its cause i made power surge refresh it self when it "expires" rather than consuming itself.


    EDIT3: its actually fixed now. Dragoon still ahead of bard in pure potency.

    Dragoon now pulls way ahead of bard in pure potency.

    Code:
    Starting Dragoon Simulation: Trial 0
    # of Targets: 1
    Boss|0	
    Base Critical Chance: 12%
    Recast Buffer: 100
    Fight Duration: 12000
    Execute Starts: 9600
    
    [0]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (255!)
    [125]	: BFB - Blood for Blood (traited) - Boss - 
    [250]	: PH - Phlebotomize - Boss -  (243.1)
    [375]	: IR - Internal Release - Boss - 
    [500]	: ID - Impulse Drive - Boss -  (386.1!)
    [625]	: PSURGE - Power Surge - Boss - 
    [750]	: DE - Disembowel - Boss -  (314.6)
    [875]	: JU - Jump - Boss - (Power Surge) (707.85!)
    [1000]	: CT - Chaos Thrust - Boss -  (251.68)
    [1125]	: LS - Leg Sweep - Boss -  (204.49)
    [1250]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (353.93!)
    [1375]	: DFD - Dragonfire Dive - Boss -  (393.25)
    [1500]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (471.9!)
    [1625]	: LSURGE - Life Surge - Boss - 
    [1750]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss - (Life Surge) (707.85!)
    [1875]	: SSD - Spineshatter Dive - Boss -  (267.41)
    [2000]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (267.41)
    [2250]	: PH - Phlebotomize - Boss -  (205.7)
    [2500]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (181.5)
    [2750]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (363!)
    [3000]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (363)
    [3250]	: ID - Impulse Drive - Boss -  (217.8)
    [3375]	: LS - Leg Sweep - Boss -  (157.3)
    [3500]	: DE - Disembowel - Boss -  (266.2)
    [3750]	: CT - Chaos Thrust - Boss -  (193.6)
    [4000]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (205.7)
    [4250]	: PH - Phlebotomize - Boss -  (308.55!)
    [4500]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (181.5)
    [4750]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (242)
    [4875]	: JU - Jump - Boss -  (242)
    [5000]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (363)
    [5250]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (272.25!)
    [5375]	: LS - Leg Sweep - Boss -  (157.3)
    [5500]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (242)
    [5750]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (363)
    [6000]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (205.7)
    [6250]	: PH - Phlebotomize - Boss -  (205.7)
    [6500]	: ID - Impulse Drive - Boss -  (198)
    [6625]	: IR - Internal Release - Boss - 
    [6750]	: DE - Disembowel - Boss -  (242)
    [7000]	: CT - Chaos Thrust - Boss -  (290.4!)
    [7250]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (181.5)
    [7375]	: LS - Leg Sweep - Boss -  (157.3)
    [7500]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (363!)
    [7625]	: LSURGE - Life Surge - Boss - 
    [7750]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss - (Life Surge) (544.5!)
    [7875]	: INVIG - Invigorate - Boss - 
    [8000]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (308.55!)
    [8125]	: BFB - Blood for Blood (traited) - Boss - 
    [8250]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (235.95)
    [8500]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (314.6)
    [8750]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (471.9)
    [8875]	: JU - Jump - Boss -  (314.6)
    [9000]	: PH - Phlebotomize - Boss -  (401.12!)
    [9250]	: ID - Impulse Drive - Boss -  (283.14)
    [9375]	: LS - Leg Sweep - Boss -  (306.74!)
    [9500]	: DE - Disembowel - Boss -  (346.06)
    [9750]	: CT - Chaos Thrust - Boss -  (251.68)
    [10000]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (267.41)
    [10250]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (181.5)
    [10500]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (242)
    [10750]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (363)
    [10875]	: PSURGE - Power Surge - Boss - 
    [11000]	: TT - True Thrust - Boss -  (181.5)
    [11125]	: SSD - Spineshatter Dive - Boss - (Power Surge) (308.55)
    [11250]	: VT - Vorpal Thrust - Boss -  (242)
    [11375]	: LS - Leg Sweep - Boss -  (157.3)
    [11500]	: FT - Full Thrust - Boss -  (363)
    [11750]	: HT - Heavy Thrust - Boss -  (205.7)
    [12000]	: PH - Phlebotomize - Boss -  (205.7)
    Total Potency: 24585.85
    TP Used: 2810
    Ending TP Balance: 590
    Also the potency numbers for FT and PSurge > Jump crits are ridiculous.
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    Last edited by pandabearcat; 10-23-2013 at 11:01 PM.

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    Big numbers! Big prizes! I LOVE IT!

    Sidenote: it's ironic that that ruleset results in HP IDC TTT / HP TTT IDC / HP TTT TTT.

    Is your simulation invalidating an attempted DOT clip over a buffed DOT? Specifically the second Chaos Thrust: [3750] : CT - Chaos Thrust - Boss - (193.6) is a "bad" clip and will get an invalid debuff thing.
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    Wait how long does chaos thrust last.

    I might've put in the wrong duration numbers for like, all the dots.

    Oops.

    My lancer is only 34 >.>
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