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    MachammondtheXXXII's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flionheart View Post
    If by intimate knowledge you mean "Dodge AOE markers, continue rotation" compared to "Sometimes dodge AOE markers, and continue rotation" then sure.

    Melee DPS make out that being in melee range suddenly makes encounters much more difficult, when this is not the case.
    You do realize that when melee aren't in melee range they aren't meleeing, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MachammondtheXXXII View Post
    You do realize that when melee aren't in melee range they aren't meleeing, right?
    You do realise that Melee DPS have things they can do outside of melee range, right? Let's not forget the abilities to close the distance after either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flionheart View Post
    You do realise that Melee DPS have things they can do outside of melee range, right? Let's not forget the abilities to close the distance after either.
    Clearly, they just left melee range for no reason whatsoever. Y'know, got bored and wandered off. Closing the distance would be putting them back in melee range, strangely enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MachammondtheXXXII View Post
    Clearly, they just left melee range for no reason whatsoever. Y'know, got bored and wandered off. Closing the distance would be putting them back in melee range, strangely enough.
    You didn't understand what I said at all.

    I never claimed that "They just left melee range for no reason whatsoever".

    It helps when you read the posts you're quoting, Y'know.

    I claimed that there was things they could do outside of melee range.
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    Last edited by Flionheart; 10-21-2013 at 07:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flionheart View Post
    You didn't understand what I said at all.

    I never claimed that "They just left melee range for no reason whatsoever".

    It helps when you read the posts your quoting, Y'know.
    I understood exactly what you said. You missed my original point. That being that melee can't do their maximum DPS while not engaged, while BRD can always do theirs. It's not about difficulty, its about doing anything effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MachammondtheXXXII View Post
    I understood exactly what you said. You missed my original point. That being that melee can't do their maximum DPS while not engaged, while BRD can always do theirs. It's not about difficulty, its about doing anything effective.
    You do realize that when melee aren't in melee range they aren't meleeing, right?
    How in any way, does this pertain to: "They can't do their maximum DPS while not engaged, while BRD can always do theirs."

    You say that they're not meleeing if they're not in melee range, I retort with the fact that there are things they can do outside of melee range. I never spoke about efficiency.

    My original point pertained to the difficulty of the job, in reply to the Street fighter analogy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flionheart View Post
    How in any way, does this pertain to: "They can't do their maximum DPS while not engaged, while BRD can always do theirs."

    You say that they're not meleeing if they're not in melee range, I retort with the fact that there are things they can do outside of melee range. I never spoke about efficiency.

    My original point pertained to the difficulty of the job, in reply to the Street fighter analogy.
    I get that. The point is when melee is not in melee range, the difficulty is zero, cause they aren't doing anything. When back in range, they are doing their jobs.

    Outside of melee a DRG can toss a spear, using up a lot of TP and not getting much damage in return.

    What ARE the things they should be doing outside of melee range?
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    Why do you people have problems a problem if a class in PVE has can output more damage than you?

    If everyone was rolling bards, then it would be a problem, but there is abundance of all other classes. It looks like everyone is choosing the role they prefer the more, not the one that is deals the more damage.

    If SE nerfs bard damage, I don't mind, but that's just less damage for all the party when you are in dungeon.

    Please don't tell me you are jeolous or something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flionheart View Post
    You didn't understand what I said at all.

    I never claimed that "They just left melee range for no reason whatsoever".

    It helps when you read the posts you're quoting, Y'know.

    I claimed that there was things they could do outside of melee range.
    dude just stop talking...ur not even thinking about the high complex rotation we gotta do with precise timing...while dodging...move to kill adds then go back to boss again...oh and pray for any reason the boss moves and u miss ur back attack or side attack buffs cause that will hurt ur dps.
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